गोर्खा सैनिकको पेन्सन वृद्धि अस्वीकार्य (News update)

July 21st, 2007

एचकेनेपाल डट कम काठमाडौँ प्रतिनिधि, 2007 जुलाई 21 -
संयुक्त ब्रिटिस गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिक सङ्घले बेलायत सरकारले भूतपूर्व गोरखा सैनिकको पेन्सनमा गरेको वृद्धि सम्मानजनक नभएको जनाएको छ।
तलब आयोगको आधारमा हरेक दश वर्षमा पुनरवलोकन हुने गरी पेन्सनमा १९ प्रतिशत वृद्धि गरिएको भनिए पनि वास्तविक रुपमा दश प्रतिशतको हाराहारीमा मात्र वृद्धि भएको दावी सङ्घले गरेको छ।

सङ्घका अध्यक्ष प्रेम राईले आफूहरुको माग बेलायती नागरिकसरह पेन्सन सुविधा पाउनुपर्ने रहेको भन्दै पेन्सनमा गरिएको वृद्धि अमान्य भएको बताउनुभयो।

न्यायोचित आधार बिनाको कथित पुनरवलोकनको कुनै औचित्य छैन, अध्यक्ष राईले भन्नुभयो- यो हाम्रो आन्दोलनलाई मत्थर बनाउने षड्यन्त्र मात्र हो।

बेलायतीसरह सुविधा प्राप्तिका लागि थप आन्दोलन गरिने जानकारी उहाँले दिनुभयो।

फस्ट वारेन्ट अफिसर (डब्लुओ-१) भन्दा तल्लो दर्जाका पूर्व गोर्खा सैनिकको पेन्सनमा वृद्धि गरिएको भनिए पनि अधिकृतस्तरका सैनिकको पेन्सनमा वृद्धि नगरिएकाले बेलायत सरकारको निर्णय नमान्ने सङ्घले बताएको छ।
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भूपू ब्रिटीश गोर्खा सैनिकहरुको पेन्सन १९ प्रतिशतले बृद्धि
एचकेनेपाल डट कम समवाददाता, 2007 जुलाई 20 -
समान पेन्सन र सुविधाका लागि आन्दोलन गरिरहेका भूपू ब्रिटीश गोर्खा सैनिकहरुका पेन्सनमा १९ प्रतिशतले बृद्धि भएको छ।

मोड (युके मिनिस्ट्री अफ डिफेन्स) ले हिजो विहीबार जारी गरेको सूचना अनुसार अवकाश प्राप्त ब्रिटीश गोर्खा सैनिकको पेन्सन १९ प्रतिशतले बृद्धि भएको छ। बेलायती नयाँ प्रधानमन्त्री गोर्डन ब्राउनले भिसी तुलबहादुर पुनलाई भेट गरेको दुई साता नपुग्दै भूपू ब्रिटीश गोर्खा सैनिकहरुको तलबमा बृद्धि भएको हो। प्रधानमन्त्री ब्राउनले भिसी पुनको भेटपछि तत्काल बीर गोर्खा तथा तिनका परिवारहरुको स्थितिबारे पूर्ण पुनरावलोकनका लागि आदेश दिएका थिए।

विस्तृत जानकारीको लागिः
मोडले जारी गरेको सूचना
डेली मिरोर

भूपू ब्रिटीश गोर्खा सैनिक सम्बन्धि अन्य समाचार तल
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गोर्खा सैनिकको ऐतिहासिक जीत, बेलायती सरह पेन्सन पाउने
एचकेनेपाल डट कम, 2007 मार्च 8 -
गोर्खा सैनिकले लामो समयदेखि बेलायती सैनिकसरह पेन्सन पाउनु पर्ने भन्दै गर्दै आएको संघर्षको प्रतिफल केही हदसम्म पूरा भएको छ।

बेलायती टेलीग्राफ दैनिकको आज प्रकाशित समाचार अनुसार १ जुलाई १९९७ देखि बेलायती सैनिक सेवामा लागेका गोर्खा सैनिकले अवकास प्राप्तपछि बेलायती सैनिकसरह पूरा पेन्सन सुविधा पाउने भएका छन्। १ जुलाई १९९७ पछिका गोर्खा सैनिकलाई मात्र बेलायती सैनिकसरह पेन्सन दिइने हुंदा त्यस समयभन्दा अघिका पूर्व गोर्खा सैनिकहरू भने यो सुविधाबाट वञ्चित भएका छन्।

१६ बर्षसम्म बेलायती सैनिक सेवामा रहेका गोर्खा सैनिकको पेन्सन सुविधा १२ सय पाउण्डदेखि कम्तीमा ६ हजार ६ सय पाउण्ड पुग्ने छ भने उच्च ओहदाका गोर्खा सैनिकको ७ हजार पाउण्डसम्म पुग्न सकिने बताएको छ। तर यो सैनिकले गरेको सेवा अवधिमा भर पर्ने बताइएको छ। समाचार स्रोतका अनुसार यो ५ गुणा बृद्धि हो। गोर्खा सैनिकको पेन्सन सुविधाको बृद्धिपछि बेलायत सरकारको वार्षिक व्ययभार २० मिलियन पाउण्ड थपिने बताइएको छ।

सन् १८१५ देखि गोर्खालीहरु बेलायती सेनामा भर्ती भै सेवा गर्दै आएका छन्। दोश्रो विश्व युद्धमा मात्र १ लाख १० हजार गोर्खा सेना युद्धमा होमिएका थिए। अहिले बेलायती सेनामा गोर्खा सेनाको संख्या ३३ सय मात्र रहेका छन्।

गोर्खा सैनिक सम्बन्धि अघिल्ला समाचारहरूः
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  • 1. Tej Pun  |  March 8th, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    I very much wellcome this historic announcement BUT… how about to those who are retired before July 1997, most importantly those BUROH PARTY who fought bravely for British Crown and still suffering in our hilly regions? ? ?

  • 2. ram thakuri  |  March 8th, 2007 at 10:22 pm

    This is truely unfair to the Gurkhas who contributed their life fighting for britain in world war II and many more ….this decision is full of politics to dismiss the case.

  • 3. leonardodicaprio  |  March 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    hahah sabai uk bhaagdai cha purano harulai diyepo naya haruko ta tesai chadai chani k ho bridha haruko future hernu padyoni chora chori sabai uk jaane budahapa sahara jati khosne ani paisa pani na paunu?think about old ex army hehehhee

  • 4. niks  |  March 9th, 2007 at 12:49 am

    hey leanord dicaporio given name as a west of life you don’t have to think about old ex army they are more advace than you guys you guys are 50 years back ok if your not son of soldiers now you might be suffuring your life in nepal ok jantu don’t lough from uk

  • 5. prayas rai  |  March 9th, 2007 at 3:49 am

    its a great news for me coz im new comer in british army..

  • 6. fagolunga  |  March 9th, 2007 at 5:52 am

    dherai khushi ko kura ho. about for british arrmy.

  • 7. maila  |  March 9th, 2007 at 9:34 am

    to prayas rai–you ill be old one day

  • 8. Puran Grg-QGE  |  March 9th, 2007 at 9:44 am

    NOT REALLY SURPRISING.
    BRITISH GOVT SHOWED HER TRUE COLOR AGAIN.
    “DISCRIMINATION” WAS DEEPLY ROOTED SINCE THE TIME OF EAST INDIA COMPANY.

  • 9. Lahureko chhori  |  March 9th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    I am very much happy to know about this historic news. Being a lahure ko chhori I would share this joy with my parents and all thos lahure family wow! hurrreeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

  • 10. bimal  |  March 9th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    i don’t care whatever says you guys coz i ‘m not army hahahaha

  • 11. lahureko nati ani chhoro  |  March 9th, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    Lahureko chhorilai mero sallaha mero thaunma rahera hernos ta lahureko chhora matrai bhaye ta kura arkai tara british govt bata discriminate lahureko nati pani hun tesaile hurreeeee bhannu hatar bhayena ra?khushi chahi hunu hos tara ex lainai bhulne gari hoina ni? Kina ki aitihasik bijaya ta ex ko sangharsa ko parinam pachhi matrai hunechha………….. carry on ex…………..
    i salute u…………..

  • 12. Prem Thapa  |  March 9th, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    What a nonsense decisive and unfair decision made, Its ashmed on glorious crown. Rethink our battle has not been finished yet. Aayo Gorkhali

    Prem

  • 13. Bhim bahadur Gurung  |  March 9th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    This is a totally example of discrimination those who fought for the British for long time lost their lives survivers are suffering badly. Therefore once again all retired personnel must united and
    fight for justice. Its ridiculas.

  • 14. devendra  |  March 9th, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    hi everybody above commentator!!!!!!!! please iam olso sharing and offering a happyness word on the occasion of salary increasing for gorkha soldier in UK. but we must know that it is very different mater concerning to EX.soldier’s existing old case.there is no relation or compromise between this salary or pension increasing and EX.soldier’s demanding old case.so please we should not feel any surprise and glade or happy.rather our EX.gorkha’s demanding case should proceeding continuosly to infinitively!!!!!!! thanks so much!

  • 15. Rajen chong bang canada  |  March 9th, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    खुशी त खुशी नै हो तर किन आधालाइ मात्र कि १९९७सम्मको मात्र ब्रीटीश् आमी हो।बरु दिन चाहन्छ भने दोश्रो बिश्व युद् मा लड्नेलाइ दिनुनि।

  • 16. yang pitang chhu  |  March 9th, 2007 at 11:40 pm

    kaam garne hanuman pagari gudhne dhedhu bhaneko yahi ho arthat purano(budho)harule pahila dherai dukha gare,dherai yudhdha lade uniharukai nibritibharan(pension)yati thorai.kuirele purano chaal futau ani raaj gara yaha pani laagu garyo arthat purano ra nayama aakashpaatalko farak garera.

  • 17. Sohan Pun,HK  |  March 10th, 2007 at 1:42 am

    “फल्क्ल्यान्ड को लडाईं मा पानी बर्शे झै गोली बर्शन्दा पनि मरियेन गाठें”
    My father still says the above line over a can of beer whenever he meets his old numberis .But guess who is reaping the benefit of blood and tears shed by my fathers and his numberis .

    I agree with Yang Pitang chhu .The increase in pension should have been just the opposite .But then something is better than nothing .Atleast some of our brothers are going to get equal pension like thier white counterparts .I welcome this news whole-heartedly .

    पेन्शन् एक् सुका नि बढाउदैन भनेर बृटिश् सरकार ले लिडे ढिपि गर्ने हो भने पनि तेही बृटिश् सेना मा भर्ति हुन नेपाली हरु तछाड् मछाड् गर्छन् गर्छन् !!हुनत यो समाचार हाम्रा बाउ बाजेका लागी “कागलाइ बेल पाक्यो हर्श न बिस्मात्” झै लाग्ला तर आउदो पुस्तालाई त काइदा को समचार हो नि बाबै!! मित्र हो अरुको खुशियालीमा पनि मुस्काउन सिकौं !!

    मेरो भन्नु त्येति नै हो !!!

    अस्तु~

  • 18. brab  |  March 10th, 2007 at 2:19 am

    those who first started(ex-soldiers)are still being discriminated by the blood sucking british politician & parliament. Im in the army aswell but im not happy about it. Those ex’s who r old should get more credits than us young blood cause they r the one who proved their loyalty to so called Queen & country but betrayed by their master………………………..

  • 19. maila  |  March 10th, 2007 at 10:07 am

    mula haru case ladne belama chahi purano lahureko pension ko paisa le ladne , pension chahi naya ko matari badhne ani khusi manaune .yehi ho gorkhe ko bani afno kaam bane pachi arulai fu!!! up garne.this is british policy “divide and rule” ….making fraction between the ex before 97 and after .now the ex -community should make a rule that every gorkhe old ex ,new ex and those who are in service should have equal contribution…….

  • 20. Lara  |  March 10th, 2007 at 11:10 am

    Oho ! yang Dai and Sohan, Sarai chitta bujhyo.

  • 21. maximshk  |  March 10th, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    This is of course excellent news for young and idiots but equally heart broken news for oldies and victims. The decision made in the premises that Gurkhas were based in Hong Kong before July 1997 is farce if not British wickedness. Was not Hong Kong a British Sovereign before July 1997? Does it mean HKSAR government is responsible for their pension and welfare? Didn’t she deploy them in Falk Lands and Bosnia even they were based in Hong Kong? July 1997 is nothing to do with Gurkhas! Gurkhas were always at the discretion of the Crown not Hong Kong people. They were based in Hong Kong to protect her interest and sovereignty.

    Gurkhas are not asking for a free lunch for god’s sake. They deserve it. Tell you what this British government who claims to be the savior of democratic values (equality, human rights and shit) exploited and abused thousands of innocent peoples from the hills of Nepal for centuries.

    The only difference between African slaves and Gurkhas were, Africans were taken to plantations of southern America for slavery and Gurkhas to the battle fields of Galli Poli, Mandalay, Tigris, India, Malaya, Borneo and you name it to be slaughtered by Germans and Japanese. Thousands died in notorious trench warfare in France, Galli Poli, Mandalay, Borneo and in Tigris river but their loyalty never faltered. They were taken to recruiting agents in the manner that is similar to Africans. The only difference were they had to use force Africans because they were too much in to their tribal way of life thus could not be lured to board a waiting ship but Gurkhas on other hand were lured by better prospects in future.

    The irony is once the war was finished they were just sent home without a penny not to mention a pension and compensation for lost limb. This is what they exactly did recently in Hong Kong once their interest was served they were sent home and still treating like outcast. We have still hundreds of living witnesses in Nepal saying that the wounded were sent across the Indo Nepal border and left to fend for themselves. I bet this is true and my late grand used to tell me the saddest stories of war and wounded war veterans struggling to make their way to home in desperate situation. in the Jungle of Butwal and Bhaira Hawa.

    This is not the end of a battle against British rather the beginning of a battle against this racist British. If plantation and slavery is looked the worst form of human atrocities in history than why can’t we make it our case the same and bring this racist British down to her knees in the eyes of whole world for what she has done!

  • 22. Bidhan Gurung  |  March 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    don’t be happy too much its not a good outcome as it sounds.we must be very carefull.we have a choice either accept current pension scheme or transfer to British Pension scheme ,and we must make a descision by Jan 2008.those who retire after 1997 thier service before 1997 is not count as a whole year I mean if you were enlisted on 1990 than your service until 1997 should be 7 years but according to the new rule your service will be arround approx 2 years only (I dont know how they calculate) so that Gurkha Major who served 28years thier service will be appprox 18 years .you got it ???????????? there no Immediate pension avialable to us………I’ll tell you more next time.

  • 23. Santushta Jung Thapa  |  March 10th, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    They say the British soldiers get their pension at age 65 and not before if they have not completed 18 years in service. Does it mean the same rule applies to Gurkha soldiers? Can anyone please confirm this?

  • 24. maila  |  March 10th, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    to comment 17- that dialog must be from someone els’ father but not your father.i doubt your father was in 7gr hai .so letbs be reall your father is telling you a story like in “SIPAHI” ….LMAO…. “ganthe ” 7gr lol

  • 25. d  |  March 10th, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    dd

  • 26. raj  |  March 10th, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    i AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT ARMY PANSION

  • 27. amar pun  |  March 10th, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    hello, dherai khusi lageo ani akhir pasina ra ragat ko mulla bhayo.

  • 28. Sohan Pun,HK  |  March 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pm

    1982 ko Falklands War ko commander in chief ta commentator no 24 ho ki jasto laagyo ni .:))

  • 29. sadanlimbu  |  March 10th, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    hey!!!!!it’s great to know the victory of gurkhas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But also sad to know that only a part of gurkhas get this facilities.

  • 30. Antare  |  March 11th, 2007 at 12:08 am

    बृटिश आर्मिको पेन्सन बढेको सुन्दा त खुसि लाग्यो, हार्दिक बढाई छ। मेरो चाहि कहिले बढ्ने होला? जे होस जुन्सुकै देशमा होस कुईरे हरुले उनिहरुको लागि फाईदा लुटेको नै छन। आशा छ सिङापुर प्रहरिहरुको पनि “टुहुराको पनि कुनै दिन, दिन फर्कन्छ” भने झै, कुनै दिन् फर्कला भन्ने पुर्न बिश्वाअसमा छु।

    अन्तरे
    सिङापुर

  • 31. Sohan Pun,HK  |  March 11th, 2007 at 1:20 am

    अन्तरे जिउ
    तपाईंको पनि निकट भविश्य मा पेन्सन बढोश भन्दै म भगवान् पशुपतिनाथ् सङ् प्रार्थन गर्दछु !येस्तो बिशयमा त हाम्रा देशका नेता भनाउदाहरुले पनि केही बोली दिये त कुछ् हुन्थ्यो की बा !! सिमाखने गिरिजा ,देउबा,प्रचन्डे, मकुने,आदी आफु आफु लड्दै
    ठिक्क छन्!!२०० बर्ष सम्म बृटिश् गोर्खा सैनिक् बेलायेत् पठाये बापत् पाउने रोयल्टी पाउन्ड् स्टर्लिङ्
    ल्याप्प ल्याप्प चाटनु चाटेर अहिले तिनै बृटिश् गोर्खा सैनिक् को हीतमा दुइ सब्द पनि चुक्क बोल्न नसक्ने बिष्नु को अवतार भनौदा गुईये ज्ञाने को गर्नु के कुरा!!गोराहरुले नेपालीहरुलाई कत्तिको अन्न्या गरेछ भनेर त घाम झै छर्लङग छ नै तर यो सुभ समचार् पछि लगत्तै भविश्यमा अरु सुभ समचार पनि आउछन् कि झै मनमा लागिरहेछ !!

    अस्तु–

  • 32. Ashis Gurung  |  March 11th, 2007 at 7:40 am

    yo sara sar jhuto ho. Pheri pani Gurkhali lai thulo dhoka diyeko chhaa. Public ko aakhama chharo haleko chha. sarai dukha lagdo chha.

  • 33. bhanja  |  March 11th, 2007 at 10:51 am

    british gov has played a cunning n strong move to check mate ex gurkhas case against them. they hav sucessfully divided them into two groups, one with all the privileges n young, skilled, healthy n the other old n dying. i just pray that this post 97 dudes realize n give solidarity to thier old folks, i guess some were there officers, guruji n stuff. wouldn’t it b great to get the shares together rather than some recieveing it n some ain’t. after all they all served in the same brigade. many dudes r settling in UK blindly without any research but the stats shows that british citizen r migrating in large numbers to china n australia, isn’t it irony? n bahunbad influenced people r suspecting our loyalties n labelling us as traitors n stuffs, how fair is that? no offence people, just awaring u of the situation, just remeber our past, our present n the future????

  • 34. SD  |  March 11th, 2007 at 11:36 am

    Nice to hear that Gorkha army will get the pension as They suppose to get.
    By the way I Saw one of guys wrote a comments about gorkha’s pension ( i don’t care whatever says you guys coz i ‘m not army hahahaha )
    Bimal if you are not a army shout up your mouth ok,otherwisw….

  • 35. Kishor  |  March 11th, 2007 at 11:52 am

    I think the decission is made on the basis of current Gurkah army cause they can be a great hinderance for British if they come out and fight against the government. So please those who joined after 1997, please still give suupport to those who retired before 1997. We will have more benefits if we always be in our unity.. The government is trying to play a smart game. We should understand it and keep fighting until they give us equal rights. Keep it up, the day is not so far. We have just started seeing a sun rise.

  • 36. Thuldaai  |  March 11th, 2007 at 11:58 am

    टोनी ब्ल्यिएर्ले आगोमा घिउ थप्ने काम गर्दैछ । शिकार गर्ने सिंहलाई खोरमा राखेर मुसा को बढाई । अन्तिरिम बिबाद र सिंहको गर्जन आउन बाकी नै छ ।

  • 37. Raj  |  March 11th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    Kasto Lata !?! British, 1997 Pachhi Ko Lai Visa Pani Dine, Ani Pension Pani Badhai Dine. Yaso Bhae Pachhi Afno Paisa Bahira Gaena. Pension Badhae Ko Jasto Pani Hune. Je Bhae Pani Timi Ek Palta Sansar Nei Khane Na hau. Hoina Bhane, Tyo Bhanda Agadi Ko Chahi Timro sauta ka Chhora Haru Hun? Tara Pahila Jasto Timro Economic Condition Pani Ta Ahile Chheina Ni , Hoina? Ke Garne?

  • 38. tamang community  |  March 11th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

    its really good news for the people, who are spending their life to protect the british government and the nationals according to their order but not for the patriot who are fighting for the nation, NEPAL.

  • 39. lahure ko natedar  |  March 11th, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Raj bro’ is rite !!!

  • 40. neemaa (UK)  |  March 11th, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    hami lai bhanda civil lai dherai chaso cha, kura bhujnu ma cha, gora badar le tyati kai annouce gardaina, 97 ma join bhayako haru ko pension paunnu kati barsa cha ajai. yo faisala garne MOD, GOVT pani hoina, tyahi dumba Lee, Kawan,hyas ra pearson ho.Baru pension bados jo pahila world war ma ladeka, Brunei ra indonasia ma ladeka hamro baje baba haru ko bados.

  • 41. gurungboy norway  |  March 12th, 2007 at 2:26 am

    gorkhalilai je gare pani hunchha bhanera british gov,le that way bata thagna lageko ho!! hamro desh nai swarthi chha pakka pani rajale ghush khayeko chha tyesaile ta puranoko wasta garena just newko how come ke like this way??????????????????????????????????je bhaye pani bhadai chha 1997dekhiko sabailai

  • 42. prahant rana, hk  |  March 12th, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    Beer gurkhas don’t loose your hope . one day you will get justification from the goras.but keep fighting with them.

  • 43. DS Rumdali (Rai)Diktele Rai ma  |  March 12th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Good News for all Bravery Nepali’s sons
    Thanks

  • 44. dhanthapa  |  March 15th, 2007 at 1:51 am

    first of all le let me tell you that..it is truly ….100 percent unfair….those gurkhas army….who joined a army before 1997….. Do you know one thing….the guys who joined gurkhas army in 1997 or after 1997…….its only a 10 years …they have joined it…….and they even didnt get retired..from a their army life……………they are still serving or continuing….
    so..their income salary is good……………………
    so ….how could BRITIAN govn…do this…….

    although govn increase a pension..i am little bit happy..but…our whole …….struggle is not finished..we again..fought for it…………………………..

  • 45. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 15th, 2007 at 10:28 am

    Dear Readers,

    Please be advised that the information recently published in the Kantipur paper regarding the pension scale for the “British Laures” is totally inaccurate. This is owing to a lack of knowledge and understanding of pension paying system by the person who has submitted such information to “Kantipur Pratrakar”.

    It would be greatly appreciated if you could please pass this information to all concerns so that they would not be disheartened or discontented when the announcement is made in the due course.

    Saran

  • 46. Madhukar  |  March 15th, 2007 at 8:06 pm

    maximshk ji I totally agree with your comment. Even this announcement has been made there are many unclear and unfair statement to be clear. we can’t just run behind what press said and write. wake up everybody and open your eyes.

  • 47. krisna  |  March 15th, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    BUDO TOLI JO WAR OR OTHER LADAI MA LADE THEY HAVENT GET ANYTHING, YO NEW BHATE HARU LAI PENSION DIDA K.. RAMRO …………………….DEDEKHINCHHA!!!!!

  • 48. nib  |  March 16th, 2007 at 12:01 am

    aaba yo dicision gara ra ,, aauna aaba ko pidi lai ta aalik ramro bhayao ni ,,aaba pahila ko kura suna ra aajhai ladna ho bhana ta,,, aauna haru la pani paudai na facility ,,tara j bhaya pani everything is getting better tahi nai ramro ho ,, british gurkha lai ,, jai brigade of gurkha

  • 49. sanu  |  March 16th, 2007 at 4:19 am

    Saran ji,

    khas kuro chai ke rahecha ta??? could you please kindly let me know would be grateful to you.

  • 50. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 16th, 2007 at 9:35 am

    Dear Sanu,

    jo manish le Nepali Patrika haru ma “British Gurkha” haruko barema lekheko hunchha dherai nai dherai jasto galat bhairahekai chha. Yo kina ho bhane tyo byakti le kamti matra “Service” gareko hunchha ani tyati dherai ani mathillo level ko kuraharu pani thaha bhaeko hundaina. Hami Nepalese ma sabai bhnada naramro ke chha bhane “PADYO BHANDA CHHERYO BHANCHHA ANI CHHERYO BHANDA MARYO BHANNE BANI” chha. Ma 1998 sal ma retired bhaeko ho tara malai pani yo naya lagu hune wala niyam le bhetdaina bhane tyo bhitra kotyaera heryaun bhane ke chha ke chha kasle ke bhannu sakne ra. Yasle garda yo “FALSE INFORMATION” dine ya Nepali patrika Kantipur ma chhapne lai “THIK” garnu parchha kina ki yasto saryanta le manish harulai kunai bela thulo hami, badha puryaunchha. Hunuta kati manish haru yastai aru manish harulai bharkaera, paisa thutera aphnu jiwan lai ekdam hai sukha ma rakhne haru pani chhan.

    Saran

  • 51. devendra  |  March 17th, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    dhannya bad saran g tapaiko bhanaiko tatparya[arth] maile spasta bujhna nasakeko hunale pheri pani saral ra pratkchya rupma lekhi dina saknu hunthyo ki? namaskar!!!!

  • 52. hema  |  March 17th, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    it seems so generous from the british government but still there r lots of things to b cleared out. for example, the equal pension is said but the question is what about the equal service.
    i think still british government is not doing enough which is so shameful. like america the uk seems to worry about the world,s democracy, but why within the country. it is so embarrassing too.

  • 53. Kavita  |  March 18th, 2007 at 3:35 am

    This is not fair. British Government is too clever. They underestimated the ex-army before 1997. But we are here to speak for them.
    We have to do something. Coz they are touchering old ex armies by not doing fair decision. As far as i know old ex-armies are the one who did hard jobs then new one. Coz in their age, they have to do things manually and also lots of physical work than now. And how come they forgot that the old ex- army were the one who fought for 2nd wolrld war from their side. This is ridiculous.
    congratulations for armies after 1997.

  • 54. DeshBhakta Kanchho  |  March 18th, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Aakhir Kina British Government lai matrai Dosh ? If you dare to comment on this issue don’t forget to comment on the role of the Nepal Govt too. Because there is always a tipping point for everyone else. If you really wanna fight for the equal rights for the Gurkhas then try to amend the Tri-Partite Agreement under which British Gurkhas get recruited for the British Crown. British Govt has given a tag to the Gurkhas from Mercinaries to a Real Driving Force of the crown. औला दियो भन्दैमा डुडुलो निल्न खोज्नु त भएन नि. And the one thing is that only getting British Citizenship is nothing, think back to where you come from. Try to persuade the Nepal Govt about its role while you become a British Citizen. Otherwise, धोबी के कुत्ते जैसे घरका न घाटका हो जाएगे । For those who retired before july 1, 1997 it is a real bad news for them but this is not only the fault of the British Govt, there is a invisible hand behind this, which is Nepal Govt, Becoz, the Naak Chuches don’t like the Matwalis getting even more money than their Black Business ! These are the things you/us must remember.
    Jai Gurkhas !!!

  • 55. Samay  |  March 18th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    I really welcome this announcement but what about the ex-army who retired before 1997.It may be a good news for that army who were after 1997 but it also add much pain to that army who were retired before 1997.So “British” MY FOOT……
    why r u being excited?Why r u being selfish?U r not Nepali.U don’t have any responsibility about that old ex-army whom the british respect first,Who were really breave & got the name BREAVE GURKHAS.
    Who fought in the SECOND WORLD WAR,Who only fought for only 3$/month,Who fought for another country by leaving their family,Who were died for British.How much selfish u nepali ! U r loughing not for yourself……Think good,Be good & do good…Then u will be a real man.
    Today ur motherland is crying for ur help but u r fighting for only money.ur fighting,u r killing another man…oh my god ! ur not man ?u don’t love ur nation?U can’t do anything for ur nation,ur mother?Don’t be selfish.

  • 56. Phadak  |  March 19th, 2007 at 5:37 am

    Its not fair. Yo sarasar galti ho. kam garne kalu makai khane bhalu. dhukh garne 1997 agadi ko, mudha ladne pani agadi kai paisa le, facilities jati chahi sabai 1997 pachadi lai??????K ho??? yo ta sarasar annaye bhayenara?????1997 agadi ko chai british soldier hoina ra??hah???

  • 57. Moby  |  March 19th, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    Dear all,
    Every coin has head and tail, time is good but somebody has not. Its a opinion from British Cabinet and say MOD so have to wait for good result if any changes until. British Govt is very smart and intelligent so my folks wait out and its only solution.

  • 58. ghotane  |  March 19th, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    hire gurkhas haru laaii to pani dherai bhayo aaphno des ko sewaa garnu kahaa** chha kahaa** arka ko des ma gaera hire ma dutee garepachhee ras chusera chokra ta phaldinchha ni haira ra ?testaai uka aarmee le bhadaa ma kama garera Thulo aasa garnu bekara chha saathee

  • 59. DeshBhakta Kanchho  |  March 19th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    Phadak jee, hami Nepali haruko tehi ta kamjori chha ta ni, aafu marera arulai ramro bhako ta dekhnai sakdainau. kuro ‘97 agadi ko haina WW I dekhi kai Gorkhali haru ko yogdaan chha ni chhana ko lagi tapaile teti chhoto samay lai ani thorai matra kharcha lai jokh taul garnu bhayena ni. Tapaiko Bhavi santati le tyo subidha upabhog garna pauda kheri tesaima tapai hami le chitta bujhauna pani siknu paryo ni.

  • 60. maila  |  March 20th, 2007 at 10:19 am

    hello sarna ji good to see you back in the forum .so are you joining us on 28th march protest ,hope you will ???

  • 61. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 20th, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    Dear Devendra,

    I wish I could I tell you everything about how the pension is paid but I know for certain that there are terms and conditions laid down as usual before making a policy to be implimented and under which it will be managed. For instance, it may be that the whole terms and conditions may well be only applicable to those who have joined on 1 July 1997 and which may only be partially applicable to those who have retired after 1 July 1997. It might be that those who have retired after 1 July 1997 may be considered on the year basis how long one has served which is just one of my perceptions.

    What I do not like most is that people are publishing exaggerated and false information in the paper which makes people very unhappy when they come to know the officially announced result is different to what they have been enlightened by the information given in the news paper.

    Anyway, we need to calm down those who are seen already have become overly excited of getting such pension increment.

    Saran

  • 62. maila  |  March 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    hell saran kumar dai are you joining us on 28th of march or not let us know hai.i am sure the man who respect the war veterans will support this protest.

  • 63. Santushta Jung Thapa  |  March 20th, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    What serial 16 has said is true I for one believe. I think there are various terms and conditions for the British pension and implemented for Gurkhas depending on which date they are enlisted or discharged. I agree when he says they need to remain calm and not get overly excited or needlessly disappointed until the terms and conditions are clearly understood. But I do support the case for the veterans who fought for the British in WW2, Malayan Emergency, Indonesian Confrontation, Falklands War. They are the ones whose loyalty and bravery made the Gurkhas famous. It is clearly unjust to ignore their plight now.

  • 64. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 21st, 2007 at 9:43 am

    Dear Santushta Jung Thapa ,

    Thanks for your comments and I respect them very much. I do agree that why and how the Gurkhas have become famous fighters in the world. It would have been virtually impossible for Nepalese people to have such an enjoyable life in HK or anywherre in the world without by virtue of what our ancestors have done.

    Saran

  • 65. nar bahadur budha magar  |  March 21st, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    समान अधिकार पाउनु भनेको मानव अधिकारको पहिलो प्राथमिकता हो तर बेलायत जस्तो देसले यस्तो भेदभाबपूर्ण ब्यबहार गर्नु भने मानवता वीररोधी सन्देस हो किनभने मेरो बाबा पनि मलेसियामा रहेर द्वितीय विश्व युद्ध लडे अहिले ८२ बर्षको उमेरमा दुखित जीवन ब्यतित गरिरहेका छन साथै हामी छोरा छोरीहरुले पनि दुःख पाएकाछौ यसै बाट पनि जानकारी हुन्छ कति भेदभाबपूर्ण अवस्थाछ भन्ने स्पस्ट हुन्छ हामीहरुले उचित शिक्षा पाउन सकिएन त्यसैले सबैलाई बराबर ब्यबहार् हुनु पर्छ।

  • 66. santi  |  March 21st, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    it’s totally unfair..brithis sarkar murdabad..lol..afno jyan ko bazi lagayara world war ma ladne haru lai chahi nadine.uhni haru ko satta yi pachi ka laure vanauda harulai matra kina ni?? it’s not fair baru pohila ko haru lai diyara pachi haru ko lai nadeko vhaya pani ali fair hunthiyo hola ..pachi nei kei garna sakinthiyo hola tara pohila ko haru ta aba dherei chainan.reheka pani dherei samayako lagi hoinan..uhni haru lai yo budesh kal ma kina yesto unfair..???.kati swarthi raicha british sarkar …if u keep on doing this kind of thingz u ain’t gonna make your country that much better….u will loze..

  • 67. SARAN KUMAR LIMBU(UK)  |  March 21st, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    I think,GEASO was the first organisation to fight for all retired and serving soldiers against M O D to get our right since fifteen year.so why are we blaming those who gave entirely there golden time for us all EX-Gurkhas and the serving soldiers rather than going elswhere in the world and earning the money like we are doing?
    GEASO is the one who is giving us and our vetaran some thing benefit which helps lots.
    All EX-Gurkhas and serving soldiers,in this particuliar situation it is very important to be under the one umbrella otherwise?????????
    But i personnally would like to support GEASO because GEASO is the first established organisationfor all Gukhas and also thank those who gave their time and fought for us.
    JAI GURKHAS JAI GEASO.

  • 68. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 22nd, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Dear Hong Kong Nepalese,

    The HK Home Affairs Bureau has revealed that Equal Opportunities (Race) Funding Scheme and Children’s Rights Education Funding Scheme (2007 - 2008) are now open for application.

    The objectives of the schemes are to promote equal opportunities in the area of race and children’s rights respectively.

    I would like to make my sicere request to ALL CHAIRMEN OF THE HONG KONG NEPALESE ASSOCIATIONS for their ideas, thoughts, plan, initiatives, proposals and any other indications that might be beneficial to our Hong Kong Nepalese.

    Your returns will be very much appreciated at the latest by 30th March 2007 to enable me to consolidate them for onward submission.

    The application requires a complete project details with description of activities as for a tendering supported by the organization’s registration documents and proposals have to be written in English.

    Let us come together and become united all Hong Kong Nepalese and propject for our betterment, unity and harmony.

    Please be notified that I am not the SARAN KUMAR LIMBU (UK)
    of serial 67 above.

    Saran

  • 69. Nep  |  March 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm

    You all are slaves of British and amazingly yo all are proud of that. wat a shame.

  • 70. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 23rd, 2007 at 4:29 pm

    Nep Jyu!

    Tapain le ke bhannu bhaeko ho! Alik ramro gari kholera bhannu hawasna, hai!

    Saran

  • 71. Gurkha  |  March 23rd, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    ser 69 who are you saying are slaves of British? And what do you mean by slaves? If you mean British army there are many other nationalities there including Gurkhas. Why shame?

  • 72. Nep  |  March 23rd, 2007 at 6:03 pm

    sabhaijana british ko gulami haru vaneko..bideshi life ma loviyeko nepali haru, afno desh ko lagi kei garna sakdaina ani british ko lagi jyaaan dhine haru vaneko…thank you

    Nep Kanchi

  • 73. Gurkha  |  March 23rd, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    kina british ko matrai bhane ko yo bujhena. america, japan, india, europe, korea, china hong kong athawa sansar bhari nai chha ta nepali? nepal ma pani dherai bideshi haru chhan ta? jahan gae, kam garera khanu paundai na ra? tapani ko bhanai ta narrow minded jasto bhayo jasto lagchha. ramrari bichar garnu hos ta. pheri ti desh haru bata remittance gareko paisa le aphnu pariwar matra hoina desh ko economy ma pani kehi pratisat help gareko chha bhancha. yo kura satya ho bhane tapain ko kura bhujnu garho bho. thank you.

  • 74. Naina thapa  |  March 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

    Namaskar sampadak jiiiiii swadesh ko sumadhur samjhan ani nyano maya…………………ma british gorkhako chhori ani bahini ani srimati pani pare hajur….harsale bibhor chhu pension badheko ma…..tara alikati man dukheko chha….ma befor 1997 ko pare hamro pani pension ko barema eso jankari pau bhanne anurodh chha hajur ko news parakhi…………..Naina…nepal

  • 75. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 24th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Pyari Bhanji, Bahini, chhyama Naina Nepal,

    Tapain le ati ramro lekhnu bhaeko dherai dherai thank you hai !
    Tapain le yo mathi serial 61 ma dieko chhotto bibharan parnu bhae nikai idea aunchha hola, mero bhannu ko tatphar keho bhane jati pani Kantipur paper ma jankari dieko ma dherai dherai galti haru hunu janchha ra yadi tapain ko sreeman 1 jul 1997 bhanda agari bharti bhaeko ho bhane mero bicharma pura puri paundar ko hakdar nahunu sakla ra sara khusi nadhekhae ramro hola.

    Saran

  • 76. ATIT  |  March 25th, 2007 at 11:04 am

    Malai ke lagchha bhane aaja uk ma hunu bhayeka daju bhai haru le je jati kasta ko sath kasta garera aaphno paundar paunu bhayo tyo pakka pani singapore haru le pani paunchha jasto lagchha tyo sabai hami le nai khojnu parchha sabai kura haru na paye pani kunai kura ta pakka paunchha hola ni.singapore ko sarkar pani ta teyati murkha ta chaina ni kaso ?

  • 77. maila  |  March 25th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    to nepali kanchi..tmile chahi ke gareko chau desko lagi ..tehi tod phod ,julush ,mar kaat aru ke garibi..timi haru jasto manche chai desko jiuma jhundiyeko jumra ,kirna haru ho ….nepal deshko nam ma bhik magera khane alchi manche haru ..bideshi le desh bana bhanera paisa dincha timi haru jasto chor le afno bhundi bahryo ani basyo …

  • 78. Narhang, Hong Kong  |  March 25th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    Dear all, actually we are all GURKHAS (those who were retired before OR after 1 july 1997 OR still serving in the British Army) and another hand, if we think about sons and daughters of the Gurkhas (those who are holder or non-holder of HKID, BNO, BOC, BC or whatever including our relatives {all Nepalese nationality are our relatives} ) we are all NEPALESE and we have got a same pain. therefore we have to share the pain and need to think how to cure this pain, and we all Nepalese including Nepal government must have absolute single voice against racial discrimnation and unfair announcement of British Government to the
    Gurkhas / Nepalese. Dear all if your agree with my personal view plsease search at: www.gaeso.info and www.gaeso.org.uk these websites will help you to make youself more clear about history of the Gurkhas and on-going lawfull campaign for equal pay, pension, promotion, facilities and many more. RAI NARHANG, HONG KONG

  • 79. r gurung  |  March 26th, 2007 at 1:07 am

    this is not fair game. all bodhos done for this country in the past days. they send them emty hand an now. fu******** cruel goras

  • 80. gott  |  March 26th, 2007 at 11:51 am

    yes, not fair, the buros were British gurkhas before 1997 and they will remain as such for the rest of their lives. They served the Crown and the Crown is still a crown. 1 July 97 has not changed it. So be fair…..

  • 81. prayas  |  March 26th, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    british army ma jagir garnai jheuu lagirahe ko bela .. pension badera k garne hawa ma…damn care !!

  • 82. alleray  |  March 26th, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    ho ni, yo army ko discipline nai man pardaina, pension pakaunu pani kati barsa parishram garera matra paine raicha aaa dikka lagdu. feri ramrari bichar garda jindagi ma discipline begar kehi hasil garna nasakine raichha pension ta kata ho kata ho… garnu sake ta budesh kal ma sukha pain thiyo ki……mero sathi le mahenat gar discipline ma bas bhanchha tara ma ta damn care ho ni!!

  • 83. Rato Bhale  |  March 27th, 2007 at 2:20 am

    Pension Pakau wa Napakau Afno Khusi Ho, Tara yo Atayachar Ma Hami Sabaile Milera Yi Kuire Haruko Samana Garnu Paryo. Kya Maja le Khanchau Ni Badheko Pension Ta Hoina? Tara Yas Barema Kehi Den Dinu Paryo, Ahile Samma Serving Gurkhe le Kehi Pani Gareko Dekhidaina Huna Ta physically Involved Hunu Asambhawa Hunchha Tara Kehi, Garnu Paryo. GM CHOR haru nokari Hunjel HQBG KO chamche Nokari Sake pachhi Pheri Leader Hunchhu Bhanchha. Yastai Bhayaera ho Hami Pachhi Pareko, Natra yesta kura haru Jamana ma nai sorted hunu parne thiyo.
    ani kohi Hyena haru pani chhan kuna ma dau herera baseko chhan badhe pachhi sabaile painchha kina dukha garne bhandai. khabardar yaspali mudhha ladne ho mudhha ma nam chhaina bhane pheri loppa matra paune chha. tyesaile chado bhanda chado yauta sangathan ma lagnu.

  • 84. boka  |  March 27th, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    pakka kura ho sbai ek hunu paryo sarving le pani awaj uthaunu pariyo…GM haru pani sipahi nai ho tiner le pani sangathan ma lagnu parchha anta matra kehi hun sakcha… lau hajur

  • 85. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 28th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Dear Rato Bhale,

    Tapain ko bhanai ” GM CHOR HARU” bhanna le tapain lai paltan ma kehi garyo ki ke ho! Hamiharuma yastai chhaun ra kasto bhane amna samna parera kura garnu sakdainau ra alik para gaera tahinle khojista bhanne khalko yo Nepalese bihora ho. Tapain lai jasle je garyo usalai bhannu parchha ani uskai nam pukarnu parchha ra matra tapain ko samashya samadhan hola ra bhana ta tyo tapain le GM bhani pukare ko chahin ko rahechha ta hami pani herungla hai!
    Ma ta ke bhanchhu ra je kam kuroharu garda harek ko melo mesho hunchha ani kasori garne bhanera jannu parchhja ra ma ta melo meso nai naaera na yata na uta bhaeko chhu aba tapain sanga aun bhane tapain ko ta jhan bolko proyog matrai garnu sikinne rahechha ra ke garnu.
    Hami Nepalese ma sabai bhanda thulo galti ta yahi chha ki muni ko manish harule mathillo taha le kam thik gareko chhaina bhanncha tara pakka hernu ho bhane aphule aphnu kam pani ramro sangale garnu sakeko hundaina tara yo ta hami Nepalese ko dimak bata nikalnu sakindaina hoina ra !

    Saran

  • 86. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 28th, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Dear Boka Jyu!

    Kina tapainle yasto jhutto sochai garnu bhaeko ho ? Tapain pani laure ho bhane aphulai aphai sodha na pahila. Yad chha ki chhaina, kati kati galla wal lai ani ARO harlai ghus pesh garyau ani tyo rin pani chukta nagari paltan ma jane bittikai pakhura surkinnu thalne ho yi kaso ho ? Yasto khalko bhai haru lai arthi nadie ma labh hola.

    Hami Nepalese ma khali manish haru lai bharkaune ani lanki lagaune ya laraun ne bahik kehi upayogi kam ko ta kurai garnu kasaile pani mangdai8 nau hoina ta ?

    Maile dui wata suchna yas website ma lekhi saken tara aja samma eutai juwab pani paunu sakeko chhuina ra kina hola? Kina ki upyogi kam garnu ko lagi salla mangda hami Nepalese harulai kasai lai pani chaso hundaina ki yo thik hoina ra?
    Maile sabai Sang haruko Adakshya haru lai sametteko chhu tara ke malai juwab dinchhan hola ra, bharasha malai chahin chhain ra aba aphaile bichar garnu hami Nepalese haruko chaso ke ma hunchha?

    Saran

  • 87. Rato Bhale  |  March 29th, 2007 at 5:45 am

    Hello Saran SAAP,
    “CHOR LAI CHOR KO KHUTTA KAT BHANDA KHUTTA HATAYE JASTO”
    Tapai ko kina Nak Dukhe ko Ta. Ke Paltan ko GM Haru Ramro Kam Garera Bhayeko Ho Ta? La Pakka Chhatima Hat Rakhera Bhannu hos Kati Jana GM Genuwine Thiyo ki Tala Ka Bhai Haruko Dukha Bujhne, 99.9% GM haru corrupt, Dhumba Din lai Pani Raat Bhanne Murkha Haru Thiye.
    Bhai haruko Admin Hernu Bhanda Ulta pressure Dine, Sajaya Dine, Salute Garena Bhanera EXTRA Dine. Family Tour Ma separation Garaune. Detail Ma Nagai motamoti ma Bhanda. aru kati chhan chhan.
    “Bhandari Kanda”, “Hawai Kanda” etc Tyesai Bhayeko Chhainan.
    Tyesaile Paap Dhuri Bata Karauchha Bhane Jhai Ti GM harulai Bhagwan le Herne Chhan Kati lai Heri sakyo.

  • 88. Rato Bhale  |  March 29th, 2007 at 11:47 am

    सम्पूर्ण गोर्खाली दाजु भाई तथा दीदी बहीनिहरुमा हाम्रो पेन्सन सम्बन्धी बृटिश सरकार सँगको लडाईं को दौरान मा सम्प्रुण भुत्पूर्व सैनिक हरुको सङ्ठ्न मीली यही मार्च २८ तारिख मा एउटा एतीहासिक कार्यक्रम भएको थीयो जुन यस् प्रकर्ले भएको थीयो:-
    १, सम्पुर्ण भु:पु: हरु ०९३० मा बेलायत्को parliment square मा भेला
    २, सम्पुर्ण भुपु लगायत उनीहरुको परिवार(केही मात्रमा थिए) क्रीब ११३० March गर्दै प्रधानमन्त्रीको कार्यला तर्फ लागे । करीब ४००० को सन्ख्या मा उनीहरुको जमात लाइ london met police and downing street police ले क्न्ट्रोल गर्दै न । १० डाउनीङ स्ट्रीट पुराय पछि बीभीन्न संघ का नेता हरुले प्रधानमन्त्री समक्छ्य ग्यापन पत्र बुझाय । यती बेला सम्पुर्ण १० डाउनएएङ स्ट्रीट् दुबै तर्फ बाट ट्रफीक थप्प रोकिएको थीयो, क्रीब ३० - ४० मीनेट् पछि, प्रधानमन्तृ(टोनी ब्लैर्) बाट बीधाइ हुँदै सो जुलुस् whitehall तर्फ लागेको थीयो ।
    ३, सो जुलुस् MOD Building पछाडी रहेको गोर्खाली को मुर्ती तर्फ गएर ओरीपारी भेला भैए आफ्ना पुर्खहरुको नाम मा माल्यर्पर्ण गरीयो, अनी सम्पुर्ण संघका अधिकारि हरु बाट एक दुए शब्द बोल्दै सम्पुर्ण कार्यको बीसर्जन भएको थीयो ।
    यो जुलुस् हेर्ने र गोर्खालीको साह्यत गर्छु भन्ने गोरा हरुले यो जुलुस् को झनै च हक्ता बढाय्को थीयो ।
    मैले यस्तो भेला एउटा ऐतिहासिक भेला को रुप्मा लीय्को छु, जुन हाम्रो एतीहस्मा रहने छ । बृध भु ।पु । तथा अपाङ्ग महीला whellchair ma समेत त्यहाँ उपस्थित भएका थीय
    आसा गरौ शायद यो नै हाम्रो अन्तीम सडक आन्दोलन हुनेछ र अदालत्मा जान नपरोस् ।
    Jai Gorkha

  • 89. Rato Bhale  |  March 29th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    क्रम्स् ..
    यो March ले आज मेरो छाती गर्बले धेरै प्रफुलीत छ
    साय्दै हाम्रा पीता पुर्खाले उहाह्रुले आर्जेको कमाइको मुल्य चुकएको मा उहाहारुको आत्मले शान्ति पाव्स् ।
    साय्द उहाहारुले यो बाटो हामीलाई नदेखाएको भय र वीर गोर्खालीको नाम नराखेको भा । आज London जस्तो ठाउँ मा गएर आफ्नो हक खोज्न पाउनु एउटा गर्ब को कुरा हो
    कति भु पु हरु आफ्नो काम छोडेरा,Night duty सकेर without sleeping आएका थिय । साच्चै नै उनी हरुको अनुहार मा औट रिस् भनौ या के भनौ एक्द्म गम्भीर देखिन्थ्यो । एक्दम् Focus थीयो चेहेरा अनी त्य्स्मा बीभिन्ना मेडल छातीमा, सिर् मा Gurkha hat ले सज्जित उनिहरुको रुप हेर्दा साच्ची नाइ किताबको गोर्खाली देखिन्थे । यसरी लण्डन को शहरमा मार्च गर्दा मेरो भीत्र बाट नै घाटी सम्म भ्क्कनो फुटेको थीयो, रिस् भनौ या खुशी यो मीश्रीत अबसर मा मेरो मान्स्प्ट्मा एकदम आरोह वीरओहा छाय्को छ, यती हुँदा हुँदै के गर्ने हजुर फेरी Night duty को लागि कुद्नु पर्‍यो नत्र श्रीम्ती छोरा छोरी ले खान पाउदैन, के गर्ने यस्तै छ हाम्रो जीन्द्गानी ।

    Jai Bir Goorkhali

  • 90. boka  |  March 29th, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Dear Saran Jyu,

    Thanks for your response which I appreciate. I meant no offence to any one. American haru le bhanchha ni :“The bad workman blames his tools” yesti hami Nepali ma pani kehi chhan, hoina ra? Tara generalise garnu bhaena karan sabai ko eutai bichar bbhinda bhindai afno afno hunchha, hoina ra? Ma lahure hoina.

    Thanks.

    Boka

  • 91. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    Dear Rato Bhale Jyu!

    Tapainlai ta nikai nai ghayal banaeko bujhinchha tara mero bichrma ta ti ghayal banaune haru ko ta namai die sabaile chininthe hola. Kina ki tapain ko bhanai le ta ati naramro gareko bujhinchha tara kasle bhanne nabhaera sabai lai ekdam siswad lagiraheko chha. Je hos nam chahin dinai paryo hai! Merai nam bhae pani thikai chha kina ki aphule gareko hoina ta ma bhandina yi koso ho jyu?
    Please nam haru chaiyo hai!
    Saran

  • 92. boka  |  March 29th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    Mero euta arko question tyo ke bhane Army ma hami kina bharti hunchhau? Feri Army ma sabai GM harule matra command garchha rai? British Gurkha Regiment ko history ali ali parhe ko chhu. Euta unit ma Commanding Officer (C0), OC, platoon commander etc pani hunchhan, hoina ra? Euta jiggyasha rakhe ko matra, hajooor!!

  • 93. KALO BHALE  |  March 29th, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    to rato bhale ..ke pension napakaune lahure haruko pani pension pakeko lahure haruko jatti contribution cha ta ????? budho haru le yo isthiti samma ladna afno mahina bhariko pension donation diyeko cahn tyo on service ma hune lahure haruko ke hisaab kitaab cha ..tini haru bata pani donation uthaunu parcha ??? i want answer….next time i want the story that has some result hai tyo saranarthi ko bhela liyera downing street ma gayeko boring story nasunau hai ……british government le testo gareko tahapai pai kina teskai desh ma munteko ta????? damn funny….BEGGERS CAN’T BE CHOOSERS

  • 94. chhirmiray bhale  |  March 30th, 2007 at 11:11 am

    Rato bhale kalo bhale kina cock fight garnu hunchha? Abo jo bhayo bhayo thikai chha ni.. ma euta burho sipahi ko nibedan chha hajoor haru lai… tyo ke bhane abo service ma hune haruko pay pani british ko barabar bhayo.. kati ramro… feri pension pani…tes karan uni haru lai contribut garnu launu paryo GASO ko fund ma case fite ko lagi…. rate Rfn ko 10 pound GM ko 100 pound tin tin mahina wari. jasle maandaina teslai GM ko ma pes garnu bhannu… yeso gare hami burho sipahi ra family lai dharma hunchha… hami lai serving le pani sahyog garnu paryo ni.. baje purkha ko nam ma…

  • 95. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  March 30th, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    Dear Chairmen of HK Nepalese Associations!

    Lau ta bhannu hos sathi bhai haru, ke you HK Nepalese Sang haru ko “CHAIRMEN” haru le Nepalese haruko lagi kehi unnati garchhu bhanchhan ta??? Yo mathi serial 68 ma tapain harule parnu hos, ahile yo bela sammama eutai bata pani sabda sunna paeko chhaina. Yo aundo Monday, 2 Appril 2007 ma yas bare meeting hundai chha bhane maile gaera ke ke bolne ta???
    Aphso, BBQUE ma aunu hos bhane ko bhaeta jawab haru utin khera nai barshaunthyo hola tara hamro HK Nepalese haru lai kunai ramro kam ya pesh garaun bhanera salla mangda kunai le pani chaso lindai na ra yahi ho hami HK Nepali.

    Saran

  • 96. Rato Bhale  |  March 30th, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    हेल्लो कालो भाले,
    तपाईंको कमेन्टको लागि धन्यवाद, तर १० डाउनइङ स्त्रीत्मा गएको हामी सबै not refugee, यो तपाईंले गल्ती बोल्दै हुनुहुन्छ, how about you, you seems you are a serving members, or are you a LAHURE at all ? कि मेरो अरु कमेन्टस् हरुले रिस् उठेको मान्छे पर्नु भय जस्तो छ । फेरी पनि भन्छु हामी स्राणाथी होइन ।
    अनि कस्ले कति चन्दा दियो that is not my job you can ask whoever took it तर इन जनरल म सेर्विङ को केही देन छैन ।

  • 97. Rato Bhale  |  March 30th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    हेल्लो Kalo Bhale जिउ
    हामी सबै बृटिश भैसकेको छौ नत्र कहाँ १० Downing street ma मार्च गर्न जान्थेउरा नत्र पुलिस ले पक्डेरा कोची हल्थ्यो नि जैल मा होइन र? अनि तपाईंले कुरा नबुझे जस्तो छ मैले पनि सेर्विङ गुर्खेले केनी देन गर्न पर्‍यो भनेको त हो नि तर कस्ले कति चन्दा दियो तेस्को हिसाब किताब चन्दा लिनेलाई नै सोध्नु होला
    अनि हामी Not Beggar हामी त आफ्नो खुन पसिनाको मुल्य मात्र खोजेको तपाईंको खिया लागेको दिमाग बाट त्यो Beggar भन्ने शब्द हाम्रो लागि निकाली दिय हुन्छ कि तपाईं मेरा अरु कमेन्टस् bata रिस् उठेको हो ? यदि हो भने you must be dumba dharke GM HA..HA..HA..

  • 98. Rato Bhale  |  March 31st, 2007 at 1:25 am

    Hello Saran SAAP,
    तपाईं लाई किन नाम चाँहीहो हौ थाहा नै छ नि हाम्रो पल्ट्न को चाल्चलन MM बाहेक अरु केही गर्न सक्ने होइन तर ति मान्छेहरु नै माथि माथि पदोन्नती हुन्छ्न्, आदी, इत्यदि
    भनाए छ नि, “मान्छे पुग्यो जुनमा गोर्खे आफ्नै धुनमा” लौ त्यो नाम आफै पत्ता लगाउनुहोस्
    धन्यवाद

  • 99. kalobhale  |  March 31st, 2007 at 10:50 am

    TO RATO BHALE–my frist question to your brai full of shit hai…timi le magreko gurkha ko lagi ki british ko lagi ….timi british bhai sakyau re pahila gushal khana gayera yeso anuharma ailkati dala hai ani rang mila ki …timi haru jasto manhce chai kunai right ko lagi ladne hoina ki khali afno swartha ko lagi ladne …you call your self british hai …aba timinai timro daju bhai ko sosak bhayenau ta ..timi british bhaye pachi timi downing street ma ke garnu gayeko ta…dumba sipahi…finally you have proven why you were not promoted to any ranks than dumba sipahi…..ma gm bhaye ta tmilai trainig nai nasaki tdbg bata nai reject gari dintihye kunja galla ,ero ra dro lai kati khuyera lageko ho….ani arko kura you don’t know about donation re ek paisa pani contribution chaina ki ke ho ..euta kura yaad rakha yo ajako jhanda bokera timharu furti lagaune sthiti tehi budho haruk ko donation la ho hai …..

  • 100. maila  |  March 31st, 2007 at 11:47 am

    ke ho saran saap yaha equal pension ko maag ko barema discussion bhai rakheko cha taipaiko arkai kura kina yesto distraction.tapaiko kura geniune bhayepani thik thauma jasto chahi lagena .kina yo equal pension ko kura tapailai teti manpardaina jasto lagyo .i hope you are not suffering from tipical dharke syndrome hai…bring changes to your thinking you are not in the barrecks…..

  • 101. Bhanja  |  March 31st, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    Gurkhas Get A Fair Deal ekantipur.com March 31 By Dr. Andrew Hall

    Comments please

    Gurkhas Get a Fair Deal
    By Dr Andrew Hall

    You have to be good, very very good, to join the British Army as a Gurkha. The United Kingdom currently recruits only 230 Nepali citizens a year, but this year over 14,600 young men applied - it’s certainly a popular career. To be one of the fortunate few you have to be highly motivated, well educated and in peak physical condition. Those who make the grade are joining one of the world’s most advanced armies, often serving in some very challenging operational theatres such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

    In return, the Gurkha soldier will be paid the equivalent of his British counterpart (as a Lance Corporal 2.25 lakh rupees a month, as a Sergeant 3.15 lakh rupees a month and as a Captain 4.16 lakh rupees a month). His wife and children will be entitled to live in service provided accommodation in the United Kingdom. In addition, they will all receive free healthcare and free education for their children. It sounds, and is, a highly desirable and attractive career.
    So why have retired ex-British Gurkha servicemen been demonstrating outside the British Houses of Parliament and outside the British Embassy in Kathmandu? They say they have been unfairly treated over their pensions and over their immigration status. There has been a lot of rhetoric. I wanted to lay down some facts.

    Pensions

    Until now Gurkha pensions have been linked to the rates paid to Indian Army pensioners. Why? Because that was the agreement the-then Governments of Nepal, India and the United Kingdom signed up to in 1947 when the British Indian Army was wound up and some Gurkha regiments were re-assigned to the British Army and some to independent India’s Army.

    Since then every new recruit has been made perfectly well aware of this linkage. The pension rates were intended to support the ex-Gurkha when he retired to Nepal. And they are generous. Don’t take our word for it: judge for yourselves. A Captain draws in the region of 42 thousand rupees every month, while a Sergeant and a Lance Corporal draw in excess of 17 thousand and 13 thousand rupees respectively, each month.

    Why didn’t they get the same pension as a British soldier? Because the Gurkha Pension Scheme (GPS) and the British Armed Forces Pension Scheme 75 (AFPS 75) are entirely different, intended to meet different needs. The GPS is based on the Indian Army Pension Scheme. It assumes that Gurkhas are recruited in Nepal, serve in the British Army as Nepalese citizens and, crucially, are discharged in Nepal, where historically the vast majority of former Gurkhas have remained on retirement.

    Let’s be clear. The GPS is not a substandard version of the British AFPS 75. On the contrary, it has benefits that the AFPS 75 does not. What are they? Specifically, the Gurkha pension scheme not only provides generous rates but also:

    ” pays pensions early, on departure from the army. This is a massive benefit. Their counterparts in the wider Army under the British AFPS 75 who serve for less than 22 years (currently 80%+) do not receive any pension at all until they reach the age of 60 or, increasingly, 65. In contrast, Gurkhas who leave service with only 15 years service, start to receive a pension under GPS immediately on discharge. This means that they receive pension payments for a long period, perhaps 25 years or more, when a non-Gurkha gets nothing. The preserved pension a non-Gurkha soldier gets at age 60/65 is worth more, but is paid for a much shorter period;

    “ensures any revision of pensions benefits are applied to all pensioners in the scheme. For example, all our pensioners had their pensions at least doubled when the GPS was reviewed in 1999. This is in marked contrast to their British counterparts whose pensions are based on their salaries at the time they left the Army. They cannot catch up with any subsequent pay awards made to their successors; “matches or exceeds any improvements made to Indian Army pensions rates, including through the 10-yearly Indian Army Pay Commissions. For example, in 2006 the British Government learnt that the Indian government was going to change the calculation of its pensions. We immediately began to implement this change, which will result in a further substantial increase (up to 20%) in GPS pensions for junior ranks. The British government also continues to review the GPS pensions annually to take account of cost of living increases in Nepal.

    So, are the pension arrangements for Nepali ex-Gurkhas different? Yes, absolutely: they confer on Nepali ex-Gurkhas benefits that their British counterparts can never enjoy.

    However, as a result of the Gurkha Terms and Conditions of Service review, ex-Gurkhas, who left the British Army after 1 July 1997 and who have already been benefiting from the GPS pension, will be allowed the option of transferring to the British AFPS 75. All their service, including that before 1 July 1997, will be taken into account, if they decide to transfer their benefits into AFPS 75. Service on or after 1 July 1997 will be given a credit of year-for-year in AFPS 75, while service before that date will have a credit worth broadly the same as the benefits earned in the GPS before that date.

    However, an individual’s decision of whether or not to transfer from GPS to AFPS 75 will be a complex one and individuals will need to read carefully the Offer To Transfer documentation when issued, ensure they understand the consequences of opting for change and make a decision based on their personal needs.

    Finally on pensions, it has been claimed that it is “outrageous” that Gurkhas who served for the duration of World War II receive no pension for their war service. However, not only is this in step with their comrades in the wider Army who also served for the duration of the war and earned no pension from it but ex-Gurkhas are able to draw on the services of the Gurkha Welfare Scheme which provides financial and other support to over 10,000 ex-Gurkhas.

    Settlement in the United Kingdom

    The other complaint raised by the ex-Gurkha organisations is over their entitlement to permanent resident’s status in the United Kingdom. Until a few years ago a tiny number of retired Gurkhas qualified for a United Kingdom resident’s permit. They would not have spent enough time in the United Kingdom to qualify under our Immigration Rules. In October 2004 that changed. The British Home Office gave an immigration concession to ex-Gurkhas who retired after 1 July 1997 to allow those who had completed at least 4 years military service to count this towards the qualifying period for settlement in the United Kingdom.

    The ex-Gurkhas outside the British Embassy are not demonstrating about this concession. They are demonstrating that the concession should also apply to those Gurkhas who retired before 1 July 1997. So, why is the concession only valid from 1 July 1997? Because 1 July 1997 is the date when the Brigade of Gurkhas, on completion of the British withdrawal from Hong Kong, became a United Kingdom based force, thus enabling ex-Gurkhas to demonstrate close and continuous ties to the United Kingdom. Before then our Gurkhas were based in the Far East, and could not therefore demonstrate these close ties as required by the United Kingdom Immigration Rules. This requirement has never been up for negotiation and it was never the British government’s intention to grant universal settlement rights to all Gurkhas who were recruited in Nepal, served in the Far East and were finally discharged in Nepal.

    However, in recognition of the fact that some ex-Gurkhas, discharged prior to 1 July 1997 might also be able to demonstrate close ties to the United Kingdom, the British government introduced four discretionary criteria. Under these criteria, which include either three years service in the United Kingdom, the balance of close family members being already resident in the United Kingdom, children’s education or acute medical conditions, significant numbers have successfully applied for settlement visas.

    While I, and my Embassy staff, have listened carefully to our ex-Gurkhas concerns and have acted as a conduit to the British government, it saddens me that they feel so hard done by. The relationship between the Brigade of Gurkhas and the British Army has always been one built on mutual trust and confidence. Nothing has been hidden and our Gurkhas have known from their first days of service what their terms and conditions of service would be. When there have been changes over the years, we have given extremely detailed briefings. The relationship within the Army is but a reflection of the long term relationship between our two nations. From where I sit our friendship remains as strong as ever. Fortunately for Nepal, the majority of ex-Gurkhas living in Nepal are now devoting their energies and their resources to building a peaceful and prosperous Nepal together with their fellow citizens.

    (Dr Hall is the British Ambassador to Nepal)

  • 102. kalobhale  |  March 31st, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    reply to post 97 ==”hami british bhai sakeka cahu” ==ani tapai british bhai sakeko bhaye keko lagi 10 downing street ma janu bhayeko ta ,pheri bholi pension ko topic nai arkai hola hai like british discreminating its own british people ha ha ..aba

  • 103. Rato Bhale  |  March 31st, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Hello Kalo Bhale,
    this is the problem for you people cause you don’t have a slightest idea of why we are doin this. if we are not British what is our right to go to Downing street, can you go? put this into your shity little mind that no foreign nationality can do such a procession infront of a parliment square.
    if we are selfish like you we could have not done this, but we are not like you narrow minded, selfish and etc. but we are thinking about those BUDOH TOLI pre 97 and so on.
    in mojority those people who went there were post 97, we know what is our responsibility and soliditary towards our old Goorkhali Budoh HARU.
    i am telling you again, to be british you don’t have to be a white ok ,there are black, asian, etc. who are British. you don’t even know what is the meaning of it, so shut you gob off, you little shit head.
    bieee

  • 104. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 1st, 2007 at 11:48 am

    My dear Maila!

    Malai pani pension ko bishay ma kura garnu paha garnu man parchha “TARA” sahi dhanga ra tarika le ani mero sochai ma chahin ” DIPLOMATICALLY” kadam chale ma ajhai dherai “EFFFECTIVE” hunthiyo ki jasto malai lagchha. Tara malai chahin ” DINCHHES BHANE DE NATRA BHANE TERO JOR LATTI LE PANI PETMA DINCHHU” bhanne tarika ma chahin mero shamat hundaina, hai, Maila bhai.

  • 105. Rato Bhale  |  April 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Hello, Saran
    you are exactly right, we did’t mean to do that. but what we trying to do is win the Heart and Mind of British Public. do you know on Immigration announcement for Gurkhas? we did it thru Public support not by the court case or whatever, so we are doing it the same way as well for our pension. we are not as stupid as some Gurkha association who tried to go to court without doing any homework and you know what happend. i can guarrantee you we not gonna win that way, we need public support, if public give pressure there is no such a power bigger than this.
    and Britih Public loves Gurkhas that is why we are sure sooner or later we will win.
    ofcourse we are not forgeting our Budho Toli in Nepal, that is why we are protesting against this 97 cut off date. if we are selfish, we don’t need to do this cause we are geting what we asked for but we are not selfish, we got British Nationality, and pension as par with British counterparts. but we will never forget our Old and Bold Budoh Toli.
    hope god will help us
    jai Gurkhas.

  • 106. Rato Bhale  |  April 1st, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    to kalo bhale,
    think before and understand what i meant, before you bark you dumb head, where are you now, had enough? f###ing Austrelian Bheda.
    this is not the time why you didn’t get promoted or whom i gave bribe to join(ARO, DRO, GALLA) this is time to get it right what we deserve,
    we may be in same wavelength but you seems to misunderstood me and start Barking like a stray dog.
    please think and read it again my comments when you are sober, calm down. ok
    jai, Goorkhali

  • 107. KALO BHALE  |  April 1st, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    to rato bhale==LISTEN ASSBREATH are you trying to say that you have to be british citizen frist to protest in the downing street..hopefully oneday you might say all ex should become british citizen first to protest against british…very bright thinking begger….

  • 108. maila  |  April 1st, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    to comment 104..well saran saap pahila ta gaeso le diplomatic kadam nai chaleko jasto lagcha aba ramro sanga magda nadiye pachi testai huncha …aba gorako bargaining garne baani…aba tapai haru jasto major ko ta majale pension badhyo tesaile dhukkai cha ni but if you are one those budho sipahi you would know what suffering means….aba tapai harulai gorako bani lage pachi testai ho ni khali mathi mathi ko matra kura talako ke matlab…..and by the you are very intelligent person why don’t you try do something about this pension issue rather than posting those other stuffs to help nepali community ,would you ..i think you won’t …..

  • 109. Rato Bhale  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 2:51 am

    to Kalo Bhale,
    listen up Dumb head, what i meant is they should remove the barrier of 97 for pension and Immigration matter, it is up to the person whether they want to become britih citizenship or not.
    yes, there is a difference between britih citizenship and foreign nationality protesting within the region of downing street. refugee like you can’t even go there, let alone protesting.
    who doesn’t want to come to uk? you may be not on that catogory that is why you are so against it, but think about others who does want to come or become british nationality.
    you see your selfishness exposed. that is why you are talking negativly.
    such a shame, person like you to be called Goorkha, you doesn’t deserved to be a pensioner.

  • 110. kalobhale  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 am

    to raaaaato bhale== what a lovely name feels like the one sneaking out of my boxer ha ha….who cares wether i am eligible british citizen holder or not but the thing is every gurkhas those who served and fought for the queen should be equally treated as british nationals…but when you your self is already british citizen can you tell me what the hell is your government doing…answer this you dumb dumba…

  • 111. Bhanja  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    not very constructive, useful or logical comments here, why dont you bhales chill out. why should they remove ‘the barrier 1997′ in fact this is an important event historically for the British colony, the Gurkhas and China and Britain. I am interested to read logcal, rational and convincing comments from you bhales please. Without prejudice. Thanks.

  • 112. Rato Bhale  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    to KALO BHALE
    KUN SANSAR MA CHHES HE DUMBA, what kind of question is that? am i a priminister of Britain? even the tony Blair could’t answer that.
    do some study, you need to learn about this matter what is going on.
    i can’t make you understand while your Brain is full of shit.

  • 113. kalobhale  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 am

    to raato bhale==hence it is proven you that can’t make me understand cause you don’t have brain to expain it ,you bubble head dumba ,dhanwse sipahi …hello jhony boy….you wanat to where i am i am in belfast and iam working for IRA….you like that

  • 114. Rato Bhale  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    Hello, Kalo bhale
    i don’t think you are in irland and work for IRA. cause to work for IRA you have to be intelligent, person with the knowledge as thik as 94MM can’t penetrate it, must be joking. haa..ha..

  • 115. Buro bhale  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 6:59 pm

    … anta feri ghadha lai dhuyera ghoda kahile hunchha ta?

  • 116. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 4th, 2007 at 10:29 am

    My dear Maila!

    I am not quite sure if the GAESO has initiated this issue diplomatically. But what I remember is that the Defence Attachee made a few attempts to invite the GAESO Chairman together with Sangraula and Capt Himal Rai to his domain for a table talk and it was only after following despatchment of his third letter they went to meet him and what I was told later was that the meeting didn’t last long becasue of the language barrier. Maila, to be honest I have no belief in “BHASANS AND I REALLY HAT THE BHASAN WALA PEOPLE”.

  • 117. Rato Bhale  |  April 4th, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    हेल्लो बुढो भाले
    हो यो कालो भले पक्कै कालो बिचारको हो रैछ
    मैले गधा लाई घोडा बन्यौनु खोजेको बेक्कार मा मेरो समय मात्र खर्छ भयो

  • 118. Buro bhale  |  April 4th, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    To Saran Kumar Limbu Jyu

    picketing outside embassy buildings is one thing, but debating the issue sitting at table is quite another, yes you are right I think.

  • 119. s. thap magar  |  April 4th, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    happy to heard about this news . congratulations all of army and army faimly but i am not laure but i like make love with laure ko choree all the best

  • 120. s. thap magar  |  April 4th, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    i don’t care and don’t like army but like usko chori
    smartravel & himaliya export& import

  • 121. s. thap magar  |  April 4th, 2007 at 3:11 pm

    congratulation all off army but i don’t like army i hate

  • 122. maila  |  April 4th, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    to mr saran kumar limbu==i wonder why people of caliber are ont thinking why gaeso was established was it just for bhasan????do you think up to now what ever they are doing is just a bloody bhasan..how could you compare them with one of those ghuskhor netas of nepal or traitor like deepak gurung(smells like you are fromr his clan too).by the whatever amount of pension you are getting at the moment was not by cunning brits will but because of the gaesos fear..can’t you see they are trying their best to devide (very english way)our gurkha dajubhais .its so creystal clear but why are you denying blindly,at frist they increase pension more to the officers and little to sipahis ..dharkes like you are happy now so why to give a damn about the rest….now re settlement in the uk,half of them are there and may have already forgotten about this matter .gaeso never went to street at first but those bloody brits and peole like you made them do it . i have a very simple question for you ,if some group of sipahis came and request you to forward this matter to some high ranking british officer will you do it ,i bet you won’t ,its that simple dharke people like you are very selfish and just think about the others ,as a retired major of your regiment can you tell me what good thing you have done or try to do it for your daju bhais rather than “TOKAI”..I am doubtful….
    its a long process so it will definately take some time ,lets have patience and faith the day will come and by the way gaeso is not only padam and sangraula but the organization of gurkha daju bhais if they just do bhasan and irregularities they will be thrown out and other will replace….and as for your sarcastic remarks about “meeting didn’t last due to the language barrier”….if its the context about understanding language ….bush and hu jing tao still can do meetings even neither of them can speak each others language…..try to be familiar with technology hai…..you must be wondering how united nations do their meetings hai……..and lastly my only question to you
    1.is gaeso’s demand is wrong?
    2if you ask someone , the thing that you should get ,politely but he refuses what will you do?won’t you try to get it forcefully or stay keep quite and let it go like a moron.

    thank you saap

  • 123. padambir  |  April 4th, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    FORCEFULLY? HOW?

  • 124. maximshk  |  April 4th, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    High five to Maila! What a comment! Yeah, i agree with Maila, Dharke’s think they are officers but infact they are not. In term of status Dharkes are below a 18 years old young lad graduated from Sandhurst with couple of “O” levels in his belt and above Warrant officer. Therefore their rank is suffixed by QGO or GCO.
    Because these Dharkes have zero academic background the cunning Brits knew that they can be loyal as dogs with few pips in their soldier to serve thier purpose to screw the rank and files. Dharkes therefore became such pain in ass in Gurkhas that they used and exploited thier own Bhais for the benefit of their white masters. Even today they bear a prejudice against Padam Bahadur and see him as inferior. What a bunch of morons!

  • 125. Rato Bhale  |  April 4th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    हेल्लो माइला and मेक्सिमर्क्,
    त्यो धर्के category मा यो कालो भाले लाइए पनि मिसाउनउ पर्‍यो, कुरै बुज्देन भनेको, मलाई त ध्वान्से सिपाही पो भन्न्यो बा, भनेपछि यो पक्कै धर्के हो, जुन मेरो माथिका अरु कमेन्टस् ले चिडियको हुनु पर्छ्,
    यो धर्के हरु पल्टन मा हुँदा त ठिकै हो तर अहिले civil मा पनि त्यही बानी नोछोडने भनेको, निकै जाने बुझे जस्तो गर्छ्, हुकुमै गिरौला जस्तो पो अझै,

  • 126. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 5th, 2007 at 11:12 am

    moron yourself maximshk and maila! who the hell r u to say that QGOs are not officers. QGO is a type of gazetted commission designed long ago to fill special positions and the officers command much respect. Age is of no relevance in the Army. Like all Gurkhas they enlist as recruits and work their way up. Given their family and education back ground they should be commended for their achievement. But why pick on QGOs? and why blame the British? Look at yourselves, your country and judge yourselves instead of others. With this kind of mentality and judgement one will never be satisifed and be happy. Why not learn to appreciate life in a broader light? Jai Gurkha!

  • 127. Rato Bhale  |  April 5th, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    Hello, Gentlemen Gurkha.
    are you one of those dharke? or master of those dharke?
    what a loyal dog, still praising the master. what maximshk discribe is exactly right. where in the british army rank structure lies the a QGO, GCO. it is a bonous rank being a very obedient, nothing to do with qualification,
    we are still fighting for this unjustified, unlawful treatment towards us due to people like you, when we try to voice for our rights, these are the very people who pin us down one way or another,
    if they have the courage to say what is right and wrong, it should have been sorted long time ago.
    what does the GM say on this meeting in brigade week every year, do they voice this kinda issue, NO. had it been atleast tried it we wouldn’t had to wait this long.
    for your info we are very happy we atleast doesn’t have to regret, what we have done while we were in the Army but these DHARKES ,i know they are realising now and regretting they should’t have done it in first place. that is why they are so vigorously defending against us.
    what is it to you with our country what you mean “look at your country”. i love my country to a bits whatever it is.

  • 128. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Dear Maila and Maximshk,

    I think you are the ones who should be called the “MARONS” just like “KAGLE KAG KAI NAM KADCHHA”. I thought you were both very sensible persons to talk to and exchange views and to share many other things that we have in common but with you latest comments I have come to learnt that you both should not considered as human beings. I hope you do understand what the gentleman Gurkha at serial 126 has said about the Gurkha Officers. Whether you believe or not they are them! Why was it necessary for you to make comment like “Dharkes have zero academic background” what about father was he not a Gurkha Officer, remember you are both insulting your fathers. By the way, Maila, you must understand and remember that Saran Kumar Limbu will support no one unless he himself is involved. I had also written on this website about publishing wrong information about the new pension scales and sooner or later it will come out and somebody has got to be responsible for cheating them the SIDHA, SADHA, SUDHO AND BURA BURI PEOPLE who have been allured by issuing the false information to them.

  • 129. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 6th, 2007 at 11:42 am

    Hello Rato Bhale,

    …………. You are a disgruntled misfit among the renowned Gurkhas so much is clear! You must have peers (same year enlistment friends) who succeeded in achieving QGO rank or even GM. You failed. You failed to make the grade because you lacked the natural Gurkha quality and ability, or perhaps you were simply a lazybone, unwilling to do hardwork, Now you are angry because you are a failure and you are venting your disappointment by criticizing Gurkha officers! Every soldier is given the opportunity to prove himself to be an officer material, QGO, GCO or even commission as a British Officer depending on his ability and capacity. Nobody is “pinning you down” in your fight for your so called”unjustified and unlawful treatment” towards you, allegation which is meaningless!! It is man like you who tarnish the reputation of the famous Gurkha. My last posting. Jai Gurkha!

  • 130. Rato Bhale  |  April 6th, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    Hello, Gentlemen Gurkha
    i am not selfish, blind and misfit. i have the guts to say what is right or wrong, i don’t just agree or follow blindly, that is against my dignity. i am clean and honest person, but that was against the rule in Brigade of Gurkhas. i don’t play dirty games.
    what you see is what you get, i am not a fox in a goat skin,
    but you are the very people who are benefiting because of us, because of our fight for our justice, like pension rise and so on. had we not been fighting. do you think you could have done that?

  • 131. maximshk  |  April 6th, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    You know why Dharkes sucks? The trouble with Dharkes are that they have false sense of pride and acchievement. They are misfits, childish, self centered, narrow-minded bunch of people. With the little bit of power and priviledge, made them tyrant and abused the system to please their white piglets. They threfore, proved the perfect tool to serve the interest of what cunning Brits were plotting to achieve out of them.

    Your rhetoric to prove dharkesm makes a mockery of fairness and justice. What nonesense! Under Dharkes, its Moluwa that survives not the general belief that fittest survives. No way! Chakarism, nepotism, Gaulesm are your dogma and what your best at in its implementation and execution. Shame on you people!

    What about the orderly culture, the worst form of slavery in Gurkhas? I bet its the legacy of Dharkesm and from such practice of Dharkes atrocities, they deprived peopl’s youth liberty, personal life, a chance to pursue hobbies and self improvement programs.

    Dharkes been barrier to all positive development in the history of Gurkhas and without Dharkes the gurkhas would have been better off and this recent development would have come much earlier! Sorry Sharan, i don’t have a habit to please peple by flatering and telling lies. No offence, mate!

  • 132. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 6th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    My dear Maximshk,

    I very much regret to tell you that my opinion doesn’t quite agree with your comments made on “DHARKES”. Its best to leave this matter here from any further discussion because no one has the solution to this and neithe anyone can be a winner.

  • 133. 5 GR  |  April 7th, 2007 at 11:30 am

    Hi Maximshk,

    Huwa….who are this poweful “DHARKES”? are they Ranas? My grandfather was an ex IA pensioner and he died when he was 95 year old. I mention my grandfather because he told my father about nepotism in the army and i think orderly system still going on in IA maybe even in Nepal army. Very bad my grand dad used to say to my father. So my father knew about this and he made a choice not to join the army but many his friends that time join. one uncle I know he now a Major. Now my dad successful businessman and say he made right choice although my grandad forse him to join army. Before for a short time he was in govenment service. This was worse because he found without connection and friends and nepotism he could not make any progress … so he resigned and he no regret now… my father tell me to study hard but what I do he left me choice. I tried to join British army but found competition to much…now i am think join Indian army like my grandad…please maximshk (uncle) give me advice. thanks.

  • 134. Rato Bhale  |  April 7th, 2007 at 11:46 am

    Maximshk Rocks all dharkes sucks.
    come on…..
    us =1 dharkes=0

  • 135. a dharke  |  April 8th, 2007 at 9:00 am

    ‘Dharke’ Facts

    As opposed to British army officers who received regular Queen’s or King’s Commissions, Gurkha officers in this system would receive the Viceroy’s Commission. After Indian Independence, Gurkha officers in those regiments which became part of the British Army were known as King’s Gurkha Officers and later Queen’s Gurkha Officers (QGOs), receiving the King’s and later Queen’s Gurkha Commission. This distinction implied that Gurkha officers had no authority to command troops of British regiments.
    The equivalent ranks in the post 1947 Indian Army were (and are) known as Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs). They retained the traditional rank titles used in the British Indian Army - Jemadar (later Naib Subedar), Subedar and Subedar Major.
    While in principle any British subject may apply for a commission without having served in the ranks previously, the same cannot be said about Gurkha officers. It was customary for a Gurkha soldier to rise through the ranks and prove his ability before his regiment would consider offering him a commission.
    From the 1920s, Gurkhas could also receive King’s Indian Commissions, and later full King’s or Queen’s Commissions, which put them on a par with British officers. This was rare until after the Second World War.

    Some ex Gurkhas are obsessed with “Dharkes” and their action as cited at serial 131 and blame them. Were all Dharkes alike? Was there not one single Dharke who was unlike? Yeah, Dharkes will remain for many years to come dominant in the minds of many, for whatever reason. This is good, don’t you think?

  • 136. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 8th, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    My dear Rato Bhale,

    I am afraid to tell you that you are showing an outrageous behaviour and more over a bigoted. If I were you I would have agreed with 5 GR and believing you that distrust was not ingrained in you from your childhood. The comments you have made on this website are being considered extremely preposterous and only indicate your jealousy towards the “DHARKES”.

  • 137. bhanja  |  April 8th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Rato Bhale Uncle,

    What do you teach your children, and younger generation?
    Jealousy, cheating, dishonesty, disrespect? I am sorry to say that you are a bad exemple for present young teenagers!!

    Now I want to read some good books!

  • 138. Rato Bhale  |  April 8th, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    heloo, saran and Bhanja
    before you ask me what i teach to my children, you ask yourself what you gonna tell your children, once your children find out about culture of Dharkesm and how did you got your promotion. he/she will spit on your face.
    me, i have got my reason as i already told you. please refer to my previous comments,
    i have got my dignity and always held my head high, not like you, you can not even face a person can you?
    otherwise why you post your silly comments here for asking all the nepali community to come together, why don’t you go on meeting and express your self, why everyone join some sort of community but not you, why because you can not face the reality or nobody like you, that is for the fact.
    otherwise you won’t be posting a message in vine what a pity.

  • 139. bhanja  |  April 9th, 2007 at 11:32 am

    Hi Rato Bhale Uncle,

    What is culture of Dharkeism and what does it have to do with getting promotion? NO children who are brought up well and taught the principle of correct conduct and moral values will do such bad thing as you mention!

    Since I cannot find Dharkeism in my dictionary and I can only think it is a word created by you to malign some persons who might have caused you to feel wounded in your feelings. Are you displeased, resentful or angry, or envious?

    DIGNITY WITHOUT INTEGRITY, HONESTY, CLEAR CONSCIENCE, RIGHT AND POSITIVE ATTITUDE HAS NO MEANING!

    Belated Happy Nepali New Year to you! Reality bites, really!!

  • 140. bhanja  |  April 9th, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    Zebra or Donkey?

    Once a wise old man said, “You know after death man will come back to this world.” He continued, “What he becomes in his next birth is related to what he was thinking at the time of last breath.”

    If a man who thinks of nothing but of Dharkes or stripes most of his life and cannot let go, what does he become?

    The wise old man asked, “Which animal has Dharkas or stripes?”

    Zebra of course said he.

    Then it is clear, isn’t it? He will be a Zebra in his next life.

    Oh, said his disciple. That is better than becoming a Donkey!!

    The disciple thanked Dharkes profusely!!

  • 141. Rato Bhale  |  April 9th, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    Hello, Bhanja
    if you don’t know what you talking about or what is Dharkesm please leave us alone it doesn’t concern you.
    i have got nothing to say to you. whay don’t you leave us alone. go do some creative things in your life.
    don’t push your luck.
    cheers

  • 142. lahure..  |  April 9th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    hy gurkhali harue ho nabhane yes gora harule le bhaneko sabhai kura haru lai,bugha pahila gore hure le garne khoje ko gurkhali mathi ko daman lai….

  • 143. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 10th, 2007 at 9:57 am

    My dear Rato Bhale,

    You certainly have said and created a new word” DHARKEISM” in the Advance Learners’ Dictionary for the coming edition. Well, Rato Bhale, why do you not come out in the “MAIDAN” another words why can you not identify yourself who you are and most importantly what you do here in HK. From the impression and understanding I have got from your writtem comments is wholly of your jealousy and more you make critiques against Dharkes and express your disatisfactions and hatred against Dharkes the more trouble you will cause to yourself and sooner or later you will meet me face to face because I have more or less gathered some info about you. I find it quite transparent in your attitutde that you won’t like your father to be the head of your family if he doesn’t or can not follow or do things under your guidance or dictatoship or you want your mother nor you want your elder brothers to tell you or advise you, am I not correct in saying this?? I do not think you are older than me but may well be you are very advance in education and experience from the comments youa re making on this website.

  • 144. bhanja  |  April 10th, 2007 at 11:25 am

    Hello Rato Bhale Uncle!

    Why do I get the feeling that your ego is firmly tied to Dharkesm? . Actually Dharkesm don’t exist at all and yet just the name Dharke control your emotion and revengeful feelings. This is called remote control. Just a push of a button will make you go flying into an uncontrollable rage, make your blood pressure go very high up and God forbid, your heart will stop beating before you can say “Damn Dharkes!!” Can’t you see just the name Dharkes is eating you up bit by bit like the deadly piranas.

    Now I would place my right hand on my heart, head high, and after searching my soul, I would say I am now ready face the truth. The truth is I don’t need to make Dharkes my reason to survive, any longer. I am now free!!

    Can you do it? Needs real courage!

    I dont understand what luck has to do here? Is there anything wrong to desire to know what you don’t know?

    Best of health, both mental and physical, Uncle!

  • 145. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 10th, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    My dear Rato Bhale,

    I think the Bhanja’s expression given at ser 144 should cause you a great destruction in your life if you are not careful about what you are saying about the DHARKES!

  • 146. Rato Bhale  |  April 10th, 2007 at 9:12 pm

    Hello, Saran
    why don’t you come clean and tell the world that, what Dharkism is.
    read the comments from Maila and Maxismhk, if those words were not true or if you will elaborate to the world, rather than accussing me being jeous or whatever, it’s not me only who feel that way as you have read comments from other readers as well.
    my health is fine, live and kicking. you don’t have to worry about me, look after yourself.
    i am cool, it’ s only when person like you start being arrogant, and bighead, my head goes nuts.
    thank you

    ps. please don’t compare my father, brother or mother to you.

    Bhanja, thank you very much for being so kind, i am fine. Dharke won’t effect my life now nor i will seek revenge. i am not a PATIT.
    but see, Saran how desperate he is to defend that something he has done when he was a Dharke?.
    for your info DHARKE is a rank in british army higher than WO1 and lower than British officer. please refer to comment from Maximhk.

  • 147. bhanja  |  April 11th, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    Rato Bhale Uncle,

    Now I know. So, it is really an argument between a man who held a rank betwen WO 1 and British officer, and you. Is it reasonable to assume you were one of his junior soldiers?
    When you say Dharkesm does it not include all who held/hold that rank? Even Ganju Lama VC, Ram Bahadur VC? We all have good quality and bad quality, you know that surely. Some have more good than bad and vice versa, dont you agree?
    It is not grossly unfair to generalise, is it?

    Anyway, I very much appreciate your response. Thank you.

    I

  • 148. bhanja  |  April 11th, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    correction: I mean to say, “Is it not gorrsly unfair to generalise, is it not?

  • 149. Rato Bhale  |  April 11th, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Dear Bhanja,
    i know wot u mean, i also know this that you are not a Bhanja, anyway just to clear things up, i don’t mean to accuse a certain individual like Saran, but if he come defending what can i do, if he is not fall on to that category he should have left it alone, but he start accussing me being lazy, jealous etc.
    i am defending myself because i was a victim of Dharke politics, i will not forget it. because as a human being i have my sences, humor. but the things they done to me was inhuman, unjustify, please don’t make me pronounce it , i feel sick.
    so long Bhanja(are you?)

  • 150. bhanja  |  April 12th, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    Hi Rato Bhale Uncle,

    How do you know I am not a Bhanja? Anyway, this is my party message to you:

    Release the PAST to free your mind to focus on the PRESENT to work to make a better FUTURE. May you have the wisdom to do it!

    King Gyanendra has been accused of many wrongdoing, think of that!

    Farewell, Uncle!

  • 151. maila  |  April 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    there is not much different between king gyanendra and dharkes……i thnk king g is much more educated than majority of under class 10 dharkes…..

  • 152. Rato Bhale  |  April 12th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Hello, Bhanja
    i know you are not Bhanja, how? it’s my instinct. you know.
    well, i am and never had been dwell on the this issue anyway. so i don’t need to change myself.
    but you might need some counseling so does Saran.
    seek help before it’s too late. take all those bad habits and rejuvenate your life. some yoga lesson may be.

    take care

  • 153. maximshk  |  April 12th, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    In response to 5GR…………..Quote, Huwa….who are this poweful “DHARKES”? are they Ranas? Unquote, My dear kido 5GR…..Its not that Dharkes are powerful rather that they are dangerous. In a nutshell, the popular adage ” A little knowledge is dangerous thing” sums up them quite accurately. Cheers, mate!

    Ciao!!!!!!

  • 154. 5 GR  |  April 12th, 2007 at 7:37 pm

    Yes, Yes! And it is dangerous that the most “deeply ignorant” among us do not know that they are ignorant.

    Salud to that!!

  • 155. Danger subba  |  April 13th, 2007 at 1:47 am

    Dear all commentors.
    I would like to suggest pleaase don’t blame each other, if you are blaming and arguing each other how can you win the battle.
    Just think that we are all nepalese and our demand, ambition and war is only one which is equal pension to all Gurkhas.

    Hand in hand shoulder in shoulder, our voice is same our way is same so please be united go ahead.
    Jai Gurkhas

  • 156. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 13th, 2007 at 8:06 am

    In response to maximshk, quote In a nutshell, the popular adage ” A little knowledge is dangerous thing” sums up them quite accurately.unquote

    Very smart, therefore all dangerous people have little knowledge, right? You are in the wrong place mate because the world needs a man like you who knows it all. Hey, why don’t you volunteeer yourself to replace Ban Ki Moon at the United Nation? Bush should be informed of your whereabouts because he desparately needs you to solve the Iraqi problem!

  • 157. maila  |  April 13th, 2007 at 9:31 am

    in response to gentleman gurkha—i think what ever maximhk said is 100% true.dharkes are nothing but little knowledged dangerous queen’s dog.anyway this dosen’t mean all dharkes are bad some are good too but hard to find any who has done any such creditalbe things to those gurkha lads.what ever maximhk ,rato bhale and my self said against dharkes is not for making fraction among gurkhas but to those suckers who are still against the gaeso’s demand of equity .

  • 158. maila  |  April 13th, 2007 at 9:44 am

    in response to DANGER SUBBA–its true this is a battle where all gurkha should be unit as one and move forward hand in hand ,shoulder in shoulder but my point is before we go for our final asault lets make sure that there is no leakage in our bond ,lets fiter the spies and traitors .in this context some dharkes are reincarnation of MATAHARI so lets be careful with these wolves.

  • 159. Bhanja  |  April 13th, 2007 at 11:23 am

    Hi Rato Bhale,

    Sorry, your instinct is wrong. I AM a Bhanja! But I a m hundred per cent sure you are not a Rato Bhale! Because if you were then you would have ended as soup for the wife who has given a birth to a son. And you know her husband would have had eaten your head, long time ago!! The man is one of your Dharkes and now he has a junior Dharke to make sure you dont forget their kind!!

    Rato Bhale quack quack sootkeri lai ….
    Rato Bhale quack quack tauko …. kasle khayo? Dharke le!

    I am going to take your advice and start learning yoga. I have to memorise this mantra first, however:

    Vakratunda Mahaakaaya Suryakotee Sama Prabha
    Nirvighnam kuru mey Deva
    Sarva kaaryeshu Sarvadaa

    My mama practices yoga!

  • 160. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 13th, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Hi maila.

    You wrote: there is not much different between king gyanendra and dharkes……i thnk king g is much more educated than majority of under class 10 dharkes…..

    True! King Gyanendra studied at St. Joseph College, in Darjeeling, India. True that majority of dharkes under class 10. Until not very long ago there were no schools in their villages in the hills,let alone high schools or colleges! If there were, very few would have been able to afford schools higher than primary. High school or college graduates dont join the army with a few exceptions. These illiterate hill Gurkha, some straight from their cow-sheds, were the ones who joined the British or Indian Army, and they still do. For many of these lads their first opportunity to learn to read or write came after enlisting. Then affter 12 or 15 years of struggle they become what you now call Dharkes. So as you can see any sort of comparison is out of the question. They are Gurkha officer in their own right!

  • 161. maximshk  |  April 13th, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    In rsponse to Gurkha Gentleman….You are way off the mark, mate! Why don’t you stop beating about the bush and get this reality? Tell you what, I can give you hundred reasons, why I said so. Now, why don’t you get some wisdom and do some noble things::

    a, Be sensible father by stop setting your worthless army standards on your children and put them out of misery.

    B, Stop your love affair with white piglets and concentrate on proper soldiering, so that you can be trusted as a leader both in war and peace.

    C, Get your ego problem sorted, so that you can be respected as a proud Gurkha soldier while your in civy street.

    You might be cleverer than Padam Bahadur Gurung, so was Nehru than Mahatma but You must learn to appreciate what this man (Padam Bahadur) has fought for all of us. I am glad that you wrote back, cheers mate!

    Ciao!!!!!!

  • 162. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 14th, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    In response to maximshk……Just as suspected and not suprisingly,it is clear that your head is swollen! When this happens (this is known as swollen headed syndrome or SHS) the person’s sanity temporarily abandons him. When this happens he starts behaving irrationally, sometimes like an uncultivated crude, and doing or saying things he would think thrice as a normal person. In such cases, psychiatric’s advice is to pay no attention or totally ignore him! And I am doing just that, no hard feeling mate!

    Who is this man you mention? I have heard of him but never knew “he fought for all us”. Really? Who would appreciate a man he does not know? My interest in him might possibly grow when his exploit headlines “The News Of The World”!!

    Happy new year, have a blast!!

  • 163. maximshk  |  April 14th, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    In response to Gentleman Gurkha…………Your latest bonker comment made me to realize that “Dharkes will be Dharkes”, You can’t teach an old dog new tricks;) lol

    Oh yeah, Your last paragraph gives me a reason to suspect your identity…………..007??? who knows!!! I don’t give a damn, though! ya take care,mate!

    Happy new year to you too, don’t blow away!

  • 164. maila  |  April 14th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    gentleman gurkha and saran kumar limbu are same person ,ip add pani lekhi diu ki ????????

  • 165. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 15th, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    In response to maximshk……

    “Dharkes will be Dharkes”

    No, because nothing is permanent. Only change is. That’s the law of the nature.
    Dharkes are Dharkes only while in the service. End of service, returning home, now resettled, buying plots of land, rice fields, building houses, Pokhara, Dharan, Kathmandu, Brunei, ARO, AWO, just a shadow of former self, change to adjust to a new working environment; those less lucky resume life in village, now their military knowledge, experience no longer useful, only the personal discipline is, to maintain good health. After the eighties, retired Dharkes, back home, resettle family, before long, go to Europe, Middle East, Asia Pacific, Africa where there is demand for their military skill, experience and their little knowledge. Times have changed and so have Dharkes. Dharkes now, after being discharged, quickly melt away into the ever changing world. The older generation, who were synonymous with the jungles of Malaya and Borneo, Sumatra and Brunei, with no formal education, speak little or no English and so keep to themselves. The new breed of Dharkes has at least SLC on joining. Education is essential for the new mechanized army. Serve along side British counterparts in the Middle East, Afghanistan etc. The difference between the old and new is but obvious. Dharkes have come a long way. Sadly, this Dharkey type commission will end sometime this year. Nobody escapes the law of the nature. Not even Dharkes, Here, all I am trying to say is Dharkes will not be Dharkes but ex Dharkes. Teaching your grandmother to suck egg, you might say. The now more sophisticated Dharkes certainly will!!

    007? Isn’t that number for MI6 agent? Allow me to introduce myself – it’s Dorcay, 000 James Dorcay….. Daniel Craig the best dressed man in the world, looks like a Dharke, doesn’t he?

    May year 2064 have nothing but peace and joy in the store for you and your family!!

    You too, take care!

  • 166. maximshk  |  April 17th, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    I am still hoping that you are not real 000 James Dorcay from the firm in a mission to sabotage Gurkhas cause;) Do you by any chance look like Daniel Craig ? If you do your at wrong job, mate.

    Anyways, your shrewd and insightful comment certainly forced me in to a blind alley. Guess what, I was at a lost for how to respond to your intellectual and balanced argument. Thanks, mate!

    I am however, delighted to hear that this Dharke system of Commission is coming to an end coz I always thought it is not right. I believe most of you lot (the new breed of Dharkes) are capable and therefore, deserve better than this quasi officer status of Dharke.

    Same to you and May this New Year bring you pips free of dharke!

    You take care, Mr. Dorcay!

  • 167. gobin  |  April 17th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    hey….
    abt ths i’m really not so happy coz its not the thng of money only.
    we all hav to see the work they’ve done to there country ….
    .oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • 168. maximshk  |  April 18th, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    oh yeah Mr. Dharke uh oh Mr. Dorcay………..got your humor loud n clear……….man that was hillarious(nearly choked me to death)!

    ciao!!!

  • 169. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 19th, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    In response to maximshk

    …glad to know that you found my writing humorous as intended and made you laugh. Similarly your praise, which I appreciate, made me feel good. Thank you.

    If you don’t mind, I’d like to go back to “nepotism, dharkeism and apple polishing”. I am no egghead but I suppose it was during what they call “peace time soldiering” in the late sixties that the word “nepotism” began to circulate among some sections of Gurkhas in the British Gurkha units. During Malaya emergency, Borneo confrontation soldiers were most of the time on “active service” and retraining, and busy looking for the enemy! I think it was during the run down period in the seventies that the soldiers began to be aware of the meaning of nepotism. Then, in silence, they began accusing some QGOs of nepotism and their peers, who received rapid promotion, of being apple polishers. Nepotism certainly is not a good thing and must not be condoned! However, in my effort to look at it a bit closely in a proper perspective I find that this is not a new problem. In politics and businesses Nepotism was and is a common accusation. The Kennedys, Nehru Gandhi, the Clintons, the Ranas, Prime Ministers of Malaysia, Singapore, look at the Koiralas and Laloo and the list goes on! “Nepotism is a social behavior universally condemned but seems just as ineradicable” ~ In Praise of Nepotism. Please draw your own conclusion.
    Get married to one of the relatives, if not the daughter, of your superior officer, a friend of mine told me when I asked him, “How to overcome nepotism?”

    Hate the sin, love the sinner ~ M Gandhi

    Hate nepotism, love Dharkes ~ James Dorcay

    Next the Gurkha issue! This is double ‘oh” zero, saying: Ciao!!!

  • 170. maximshk  |  April 20th, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Even the highly social and complex world of ants is not void of this selfish act of nepotism, let alone the humans? Guess what, the worker ants of the species Formica Fusca apparently can distinguish who their closest relatives are and kill their distant relatives. Of course, its human social behavior but you can’t condone or justify selfish acts in such lame pretext. This is typical Nepalese mentality that is infecting the very core of Nepalese morality and Dharkes are no exception!

    We might not eradicate nepotism but with vision and commitment, we can always create a level playing field that is fairer, transparent, democratic and accountable. If the civilized societies in developed countries thrive on this principle, why can’t we? I know soldiers do not get to choose but that doesn’t mean you suck them dry.

    Unfortunately what one can expect from bunch of blinkered donkeys whose head are lead? A swastika in their arm is what they deserve. Dharkesm set worlds of bad president in the history of Gurkhas therefore has to be abolished. No offence mate! Please don’t get me wrong. No disrespect to Dharkes and I entirely don’t blame them either. I am only telling the truth and hind sight is always 20, 20 right?

    Hate the sin and root out the sinners – maximshk

    Support Gurkha cause!
    Justice Prevails!

    Ciao!!!

  • 171. maila  |  April 21st, 2007 at 10:57 am

    hate nepotism and root out dharkes…..too all young gurkhas you should always keep in mind that when you got to war there are two type of enemies ,one the other party and another one is with in you party that is dharkes.the first type of enemy goes away after the war but the second type of enemy lives for ever during your service and after retirement as well .so my advice is stay alert with them , the enemy with in is more dangerous than the outsiders .keta ho eso exercise gayeko bela dharke haru group dekhyo bhane pin thutera grenade phyaki diye pani huncha………….
    floowing through gentlemens gukhas example
    jf kennedy favour robert kennedy re ,atleas mache ko thau ma manche nai rakhe cha ,aba gokhe ko ta kurai chodi diu na manche ko thau ma gadha rakhi dine chalan……..

  • 172. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 22nd, 2007 at 7:52 am

    maila wrote:

    “keta ho eso exercise gayeko bela dharke haru group dekhyo bhane pin thutera grenade phyaki diye pani huncha………….’

    … a good idea. I have a better idea. Why don’t you put on a vest packed with explosives and blow yourself up among Dharkes and ensure a place in heaven?
    Or make it even more spectacular by copying that South Korean Cho V Tech recent senseless massacre. Get hold of two hand guns. Video yourself brandishing the guns. Say what you have in your mind about Dharkes. Blame them for your revenge. Post the tapes to BBC and Nepal TV for broadcast. You will be an instant celebrity and a hero.
    Rish pani marne badlaa linu pani paine and naam pani chalne, hoina ra?

  • 173. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 22nd, 2007 at 9:13 am

    In response to maximshk..

    “I know soldiers do not get to choose but that doesn’t mean Dharkes suck them dry.”

    Absolutely! You know when one or two Dharkes and one or two gora officers sucked me I never allowed them to suck my inner strength, or shake my self confidence, break my spirit, make me lose my hope and my power to choose. Nobody ever will. Their treatment, that at times drove me crazy, I admit, I made it my tool to make myself tough and get going when one or two Dharkes and one or two gora officers made my going tough! After years of perseverance I now stand proud of my achievement in civil life, integrity and honesty intact, conscience clear, happy and peaceful. I try to project myself as an inspiration to my children, which I like to think as my gift to them one which they will forever remember long after I am gone. I have put that spell of my life with Dharkes and gora officers behind me as part of my experience and life’s lesson. Not bitter nor sweet, just a fact of life.

    The Dharkes under whom I soldiered are now my friend and we get on well, they have no more authority over me, only mutual appreciation. That one gora officer, whom I happened to meet by chance at a hotel somewhere in Nepal not long ago, expressed amazement to my achievement. In reply, I shook his hand, looked into his eyes and gave him that Mona Lisa smile and a tacit “Thanks to you!” I felt really wicked at that moment!

    This is typical Nepalese mentality that is infecting the very core of Nepalese morality and Dharkes are no exception!

    Absolutely. But in such wide ranging diverse Nepali cultures, societies, castes, traditions, customs can we really typify our Nepali mentality?

    “We might not eradicate nepotism but with vision and commitment, we can always create a level playing field that is fairer, transparent, democratic and accountable. If the civilized societies in developed countries thrive on this principle, why can’t we? ”

    Indeed! Why can’t we? The answer to this critical question has for decades eluded Nepali leaders in politics, diffierent societies, the intellectuals but now their search ends right here : We are donkeys!! You have separated just a handful of Dharkes, who are of Nepali origin and therefore are included in national census, by putting blinkers on them!

    Gurkha issue. As you must be aware, a senior British official is coming to listen to the concern of ex British Gurkha community in Nepal at the request of Nepali Government. And I have read somewhere that the British Government is reducing to ten percent of the total strength, those soldiers from Commonwealth countries. Whether that includes the Gurkhas is not known but it is in the newpaper report that they will sign a new deal with the Nepalese government later this year. Are we rocking the boat a bit too much? Lets face it, they have the upper hand there is nothing anyone can do about this fact. Wait until the end of 2007 for an answer, who knows?
    Soon our next generation will find this one small door of opportunity for employments, closed for ever, end of an era. What has a beginning must have and an end. Probably the best answer for Gurkhas!

    Jai Nepal!

  • 174. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 22nd, 2007 at 11:10 am

    To maila… urgent

    I am sorry I forgot to tell you that after posting the package you should go to the place where Dharkes have gathered. After arriving there you start shooting them one by one till they are all dead. Cho shot 32 plus self. Double this number to 64 plus self. The rule is you must shoot yourself for greater effect. The world will be stunned! Cho did it so can you….. no please go but Dharkes disappear!! Enjoy your sweet revenge!!

  • 175. maila  |  April 23rd, 2007 at 10:40 am

    to gentleman gurkha- going through your long post for maximhk i would like to like to write few things from my side .
    as you’ve mentioned ,when “dharkes and two goras sucked you never allowed to sucked your inner strength”-why don’t you straightly say you never build a strenght to resist back then and now as well and samlessly you are passing it to your children as well.those fear harvested in your paltan days are still alive and its haunting you till now ..wake up soldier you are already retired ,you couldn’t speak during your service but now you are free ,fight for your rightand even if you are disable support the others who are fighting for it.
    you’ ve met one gora officer in nepal and gave monalisa smile—wel to smlie and sahke hand is normal thing but giving monalisa smile is somthing strange!!!!!! first reason will be too harsh and personal but second reason may be you are still working in british projects hola hoina,i do understand your state .
    “soon our next generation will find this one small door of oppertunity for employment………………best answer for gurkhas!!!……………….. felt like you are droping those pamphlets from brits hercules to spread the fear among gurkha daju bhais.why don’t you speak straight and say “gorako against ma bolnu hundaina ,bharti banda garidincha”.well cutting military strength in these days are nothing new.every big nation are doing ,even china is cutting its plas.if brits are cutting their 10% of military strength and if thats include gurkha i don’t think that is related with equal pension issue.if they don’t need they will cut them anyway,it has happend after borneo war ,hand over of hong kong.
    even though the discussion is focused on dharkes the main issue is about fight for the equal pension right but some dharke in this form are comparing GAESOS action as bakwas and wahiyaat bhasan if you are with him sorry cant agree with you.
    lastly the comment about cho’s shooting…… with your dharke influenced mentality you blame cho only but have you ever thought why cho did that…few days ago if you have followed an article about how cho was humilated in his english litrature class about his pronouncitation ,the whole class used to laugh ,eventually he stopped speaking even his own name.well that dosent mean shoot every one but if he had shoot those sarcastic scumbs i ve no sympathy for them…….

  • 176. maila  |  April 23rd, 2007 at 10:42 am

    sorry about your monalisa smile to that gora officer ……i respect your feelings no matter what you are going with…….

  • 177. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 23rd, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    You are talking out of the back of your head! I have heard them before many times. Read between the lines. Anyway, I am really not interested in your mind.
    PERIOD.

  • 178. maximshk  |  April 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    In response to Gentleman Gurkha…..You sound much of a diplomat than a Dharke,mate The patience and tolerence you have showed through out this discussion is remarkable and the Dorcay style and sophistication in writting arguements and counter arguements are surely inspiring.

    However, your opinion on Gurkha issue did not surprise me in the least coz that is the opinion the majority of Dharkes shareed from many years and unfortunately, Dorcay is no exception. I don’t blame ya, mate!

    I am however, wondering why a man of your calibre is barking up the wrong tree? Is it Dharke Syndrom by any chance? Why on earth Dharkes always think that this rational demand of equality rocks the boat? What seemed to be trouble with you guys, i am none the wiser! Is it that you people fear being relagated to 3rd division, just because you think you don’t match the rank structure of British Army? Is it that the British are secretely showing you a carrot ? Nothing can be ruled out as the reason of your eccentric opinion.

    I don’t know when this obsession of pleasing Goras cease in Dharkes heads. I fear Dharkes get heart broken or worst even a stroke in the slightest hint of Goras being upset. Guess what, “a chain is only strong as its weakest link” and Dharkes are proving the weakest link in the chain!

    Ciao!!!

  • 179. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 24th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    In response to maximshk:

    “Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought.

    You are one hell of an arguer, you are terrific and I have nothing but praise for you. However, I don’t’ have to accept what you say. I don’t. Neither you what I say!! You are right: maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, because I don’t understand this “eat Dharkes, sleep Dharkes” as in a coca cola ad. Whatever it is that I write or try to put across to you, you relate it to Dharkes the QGOs. Whether it is in the past or in the present, I don’t even have a clue! And you assume a lot of things and make accusation, wrongly and unjustly as far as I am concerned, yet you talk about justice and fairness!! Mention a report on the issue of Gurkha pension in the newspaper; share an honest thought, opinion about possible repercussions, you make it a QUOTE DHARKE OR QGO MENTALITY , DHARKESM AND NOW DHARKE SYNDROM !UNQUOTE, fearful of the British being unhappy, pleasing the British, acting against some organization or association fighting for justice against discrimination, equal pension etc. You assume I am a Dharke or ex QGO, mostly probably because I am writing about them. I am certain you are capable of showing some decency. I beg you to file a case against them in a court law (now that you are no longer in the Army) and give those Dharkes or QGOs whoever and wherever they are, a chance to defend themselves, to exercise their human rights, which says “innocent until proven guilty” or some similar words, the United Nations have this law I believe, instead of this relentless unfair maligning on what basis I don’t know. If any Dharke or Dharkes are indeed found guilty as accused then he or they must be given the punishment he or they deserve by the court of law. You seem to be so bent against the Dharkes the very mention of them makes you fly off the handle, or so it seems. At the least, you owe it to yourself if you consider yourself a champion of justice and cause! OTHERWISE YOU WOULD BE LABELED AS A HYPOCRITE IN ITS COMPLETE SENSE!! The quasi rank according to you, QGO, Dharke, Dharkeism, the British master, pensions, nepotism, all are irrelevant here. It is a case of their action, their behavior, their conduct, depriving competent, qualified and eligible junior soldiers under their command, of their right to progress etc, action amounting to nepotism that is contrary to some army acts. If you have evidence of this malpractice and or maladministration taking place in the current gurkha regiments then I believe one has the right to put forward any complaint or grievances through respective embassy to the appropriate army authority, as have parents of the soldiers serving in Iraq etc, have done in the recent past, I believe. For the past cases, I believe civil court will, after due and full investigation, if proved beyond reasonable doubt, order the appropriate compensation from the guilty party. So, then until proven or otherwise Dharkes, Dharkesm, Dharke Syndrom are nothing but a myth existing in the mind of a few ex Gurkhas. May be just a case of “personality clash”?
    Here,you through your fingers you give vent to your anger, criticism and resentment against Dharkes or QGOs that you have not even met. What sort of moral principle is that, may I ask?
    .
    However, let us remember above all that we are all nepalis in the same boat, fighting injustice, poverty, striving to better our lives, create harmony and together create a new Democratic Nepal. Nepal ready to face tomorrow. Our up and coming generations need our wisdom and guidance.

    Jai Nepal!

  • 180. maila  |  April 25th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    how true ..we all nepalis are sailing in the same boat ,rowing hard to reach the shore but there are some who are desperately trying to make a HOLE to sink us down…beware

  • 181. maximshk  |  April 25th, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    In response to Gentleman Gurkha………

    I know, “Innocent until proven guilty”. I am much of a whistle blower than a global police ;) I speak my mind and I have said what I believe is not right. If parties at the receiving end feel offended or ridiculed, they can always file for libel, right? lol

    Of course it’s irrelevant to accuse QGOs’ here but unfortunately, their negative attitude towards the common cause triggered the furore (Maila quite rightly mentioned it earlier in his comment). At the end of the day, they are the one who always get the lion’s share, don’t they? Why playing a fool’s game? Isn’t it true that “a house divided against it self can not stand”?

    It is always exciting to read your thoughts. I didn’t mean to tar you with the same brush rather your thoughts and writings always humbled me. After all it’s just an argument and I believe argument as the best way of getting to the truth, nothing personal. I don’t mean to foment hate and I hate nobody (I meant every word).

    You take care, mate!

    Ciao!!!

  • 182. Gentleman Gurkha  |  April 26th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    In response to maximshk

    I think I now understand your sentiment of disappointment and resentment. Your naturally expected support did not come forth. However, I know you will be the first one to agree that expectation is a source of both pleasure and disappointment; we are not living in a perfect world! But then tomorrow is another day. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, it was my privilege. Before saying good bye, I would like you to know that, in my world, I don’t put the key to my happiness in someone else’s pocket!

    Wishing you all the best.

    Bye..

  • 183. maila  |  April 27th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    same person different name and different thinking f!!!!!! hypocrite

  • 184. Rato Bhale  |  April 28th, 2007 at 3:06 am

    शम्‍पुणँ गोर्‌खालि दाज्‍यु भाई तथा दिदीबहिनिहरु
    यहाहरुलाई स्रबोधितै छ कि हाल हामिहरुको संघ्रशको बारेमा
    यसकै शन्‍द्रभमा हाम्रा बिभिन्‍न संधशस्‍थाहरूले आआफ्‍नै ठाऊमा आआफ्‍नै तरीकाले संध्रश
    गरिरहेका छौं र त्‍यसकै बावजूत धेर थोर शफलता पाएकाछौं
    तर हाम्रो गन्‍तब्‍यमा पुग्‍नु धेरै लामो र कठिन यात्रा ग्रनु बाकि नै छ
    तर हामिहरु भने बिच बाटोमानै भागबन्‍डा्‍ कसले कति भन्‍नेतिर अल्‍मलियजस्‍तो देखिदैछँ
    हे्रनुहोश आज जजसले आफ्‍नो ब्‍यक्‍तिगत श्‍वा्रथा अथवा जातिगत श्‍वा्रथा को कारणले हाम्रो आन्‍दोलनमा आँच ल्‍याउने काम ग्रछ भने
    उक्‍त ब्‍यक्‍तीलाई शम्‍पु्रण गो्रखालि र हाम्रा शन्‍ततिहरूले त माफ दीने कुरै छैन इतिहासले पनि सराप्‍ने छ ंचेतना भयाे

    WE WON’T HESITATE TO FOLLOW OUR FAMOUS TRADITION.

  • 185. Ram Baral Siwakoti  |  June 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    My Dear Gurkhas,

    What’s the matter with you people?. Why are you guys fighting like street dogs for a piece of bread where as you have a big chunk of beef in your plate. If you guys were not sold by our ancestors with Ranas and Shahas in power some 200 years back to the British government you and your families wouldn’t be in HK, UK, Singapore, world wide enjoying better life today. Instead, you would be hunting with spears in jungle and fishing along the big rivers banks of Nepal.

    What is Dharkes, Zebras and Dunkeys? If you guys are not happy with what you are today come back to Nepal we badly need you.

    I’m a student, researching on Gurkhas. I’ve gone through couple of books which are great but looking at Gurkhas of today I’m not being able to understand what is going on in between. Gurkha Reserve Unit is about to be taken over by Pakisthanis, very bad news for Gurkhas. I was informed that Puranjan Rai and Mahendra Rai had made mukkery of it, raised a huge amount of money and migrated to the UK. Mr. Padam has hired a lawer and humanright activist (non Gurkhas) and has no second man to repalce him. He is in rein (GAESO) for last 16/17 years, isn’t it undemocretic? UBGEAN - Mr Gyan Raj Rai has shifted to UK with his Phillipino wife and Deepak Maske has a bad track record, activities like kidnapping, cheating, extortion etc. BGWS - Maj Dewan is confined in the UK not being able to work freely. NESO - Maj Dipak is derailed by Padam due to “Dharke and Dunkey” issue.

    Some months back Mr. Ganesh Limbu was furious about GAESO having bribed 2 Krors to settle Mr. Sangraula. He didn’t disclose the reason.

    To my knowledge, there are 40,000/- plus Gurkhas and their families residing in Hong Kong. Can any one over there help me to find the facts of Gurkhas so that it will help me a lot.

    RB Siwakoti

  • 186. Ratna Thapa(UK)  |  June 12th, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    Hey, Siwakoti
    Think what you are saying, how the hell person like you do some research about us. your comments shows that you are not only researching about us but against us.
    how dare you saying that sorta words to us. please don’t you dare writing about us just because you are after quick publicity, may be some financial interest and qualification, because you are no good even to talk about us stay away from this topics. you are nothing but a piece of S**** to us. ok

  • 187. RB Siwakoti  |  June 13th, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Dear Mr. Ratnaji,

    Thanks for the response but I am sorry to say that people of your calibre is not worth claiming a Gurkha gentlemen. It is nothing to do with quick publicity and financial interest of mine. I’m sound financially and have strong family background. Due to my family connection with Gurkhas I have decided to take up this subject, that’s all.

    I honour your quest for equality but with your kind of attitude how can you get to the end of tunnel? Only few will be benifitted out of it, like I posted in my last article.

    Don’t get it wrong fact is fact and it is bitter too.

    Good luck,

    RB Siwakoti

  • 188. Ratna Thapa(UK)  |  June 14th, 2007 at 1:54 am

    Hello, Siwakoti Ji,
    the way you look at us is completly wrong as you’ve said we were sold to British. can you tell me the how much did our forefather cost? do you have any idea what is the consequence of using that word? it is not only irritate us but British as well can you defend your self on this issue. if this goes out of hand you might not be a living sould on this earth. do you ever think of it.
    remember i can get your address thru your ip address.
    don’t fool us around. do you think you are reach and clever, well, my friend you are wrong just a call will do you.
    so you better stop digging on us. otherwise you will be sorry for ever.
    adios.

  • 189. MR.G.M. H.K.  |  June 14th, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    Dear, SARAN Jee!
    Tapain ko komments No.68,95 here! Tapainle meropani HK samacharko web ma hernos ta?
    HK ma kehee garchhu bhani sangsangta kholi sade goroo jhai dugrine ani danapae khwappai khane matra chha!
    Ke garne SARAN jee Jahee pani NEPALI Laae Marne NEPALI nai chha yo hami sabailae thaha bhaekai kooraho….!

    Samabesi Meetra,
    G.M. HONG KONG.

  • 190. s ..."bidrohi"  |  June 18th, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    hi serial no 185 SIWAKOTI ji
    i wan tel u something about
    gurkga p-singapore
    if serching about GURKHAS

  • 191. rpgurung  |  July 20th, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Thanks to who warks for 15years for getting pension
    JAI GURKHA.

  • 192. prem pun  |  July 20th, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    THANK U VERI MUCH PURANO VC ANI GURKHALI HARU LAI.

  • 193. sp  |  July 21st, 2007 at 5:50 am

    thank u very much rato bhale n kalo bhale bhanja n saran ji lai gret discus coment.

  • 194. kuntal  |  July 21st, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    aba british ko polacy dekhnu hunchha tapai harule. ahile samma 3300 gorkha army nepal bata nai bharti garayera london ma rakheka chhan bhane aba bharti kota ghataudai 0 banaune sadayantar gariraheko chha kina bhane aba nepaki haru londonma gayera tyehako residencial bhayera basobaas garna thali sakeka chhan uni haruko chora chory lai matra bharti garau chha nepal bata line bhod chha j jati aandolan gare pani naya army laai matra fhaida chha tara 97 bhanda agaadi aukash gareka army lai bhane jati aandolan gareu uti nai ghata chha kina bhane jati aandolanko yojana banayo uti nai paisa dinu parne hun chha tyesaile aandolan garnu bhanda baru haami gorkha bhu pu army haru tyehi yearly 10% badeko khane basne bas natra andolan ko naatak ma dheraile moj masti gardai chhan fery garne chhan natra udharan ko rupma dherai byekti haru dekhi sakiyeko cha

  • 195. RB Siwakoti  |  July 21st, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    Thank you so much for Ser.190 dai offering me your helping hand but I’m sorry to say that it is no longer useful cause Ser.194 dai has got point. The Gurkha chapter is closed. And I’ll be finishing my thesis soon.

    Once again, thank you so much for all who shared their feelings and views on Gurkhas.

    RB Siwakoti
    TU
    Kathmandu

  • 196. Raj Kumar Rai  |  July 21st, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    I am partially agreed with comment 194. But To Get Something, We Must Lose something.Without ” Es-Gurkhas Aandolan”, British Gvt would never be eager to increase the pension in this ratio.

    Next, I want to ask one question to Mr Ram Baral Siwakoti ( commnet185),

    You are not ex-Gurkha , Gurkha or Ex-Gurkha’s son, Why have you not become a hunter or fisherman?

    Next, You and your friend have same post for same job and joined same time. You are getting Rs 5000/-, but your friend rs 20,000/-. Are you satisfied with such salary? I think U never………….

  • 197. RB Siwakoti  |  July 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    196 Rajji,

    I’m not against you. What I am trying to say is, there will always be a system to control a group of people i.e. an institude, a company, an organisation etc. Instead of going straight for the money why not you try to get the settlemen rights first. News on settlemen visa for Gurkhas comes almost everyday in television and newspapers. I don’t know how truth it is. If you have that documnets with you then it will be the best point of start with. That’s it.

    Sorry for my last previous postings about Gurkha dajyus and bhais, cause I was flushed with some nasty words by some other people.

    I wouldn’t be coming in again cause my thesis is over. I’m pleased to share some good and bads with you people. Good luck.

    RB Siwakoti

  • 198. RB Siwakoti  |  July 27th, 2007 at 10:55 am

    Raj Kumarji,

    Beofre I conclude my very final discussion or posting or “bad bibad” with you, a most important thing to understand is know yourself the reality. Yes, majority of Gurkhas believe everything happened because of Andolan, but to my understanding it is “NO”. In some extend yes, like compensetion for Japanese Prisoner of War, Gurkha status and position in Nepali society and warning to Nepalese Government and public, but pension increment has nothing to do with the Andolan. First, it is dicteted by Indian Pension Code then British and Nepalese governments decides where to draw lines. For example, Indian Army pension increase! your pension increase if their pension don’t increase your pension don’t increase.

    Note Gurkha lost their pension case in the British High Court in 2003, and it is lost for ever.

    Yes, you have reasons to go for Andolan and you have been going for it for last 16+ years but it seems to me it will never end if you follow the same patern. Work this out, after another 16 years how many Gurkhas will be in this planet to continue Andolan. Younger generation ( who joined from 2006) are/will busy catching up with the time, middle generation are busy settling down their children and older generation are hanging on their hopes for better pension. It is good to have more organisations but the leaders are no longer working in the interest of Gurkhas. Their interest are in someother areas. Find your self out. Bye!!! A Gurkha suvachintak.

  • 199. tg  |  July 28th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    I have no ties to Gurkhas, and I stumbled upon this site by accident. As I read the comments, I was particularly struck by one RB Siwakoti’s comments. Apparently the coward, after making some totally uncalled for comments, has decided not to visit this forum again; but he if slyly sneaks in again, I’d like him to think about what he has written:

    “If you guys were not sold by our ancestors with Ranas and Shahas in power some 200 years back to the British government you and your families wouldn’t be in HK, UK, Singapore, world wide enjoying better life today. Instead, you would be hunting with spears in jungle and fishing along the big rivers banks of Nepal..”

    How can someone who writes such statements about a people conduct a study about the said people? How can someone who is so biased (maybe the bias springs from jealousy/low self-esteem) write an academic treatise on a people whom he obviously cannot empathize with?

    And finally, let me address his take on his ‘ancestors’ selling Gurkhas. First, I take it that you , Mr. Siwakoti are not a Rana or a Shah. You are a bahun, and thus your ancestors could not have been Ranas or Shahs. Secondly, it’s pathetic that you would even try to link your lineage to the Rana’s and Shah’s when they treat you Bahuns with such contempt (I know this because I’ve some Rana blood in me.) What your ancestors would have been back then (and I don’t like talking about ancestors etc., but you’ve compelled me to do so), wouldn’t have been rulers, as you like to imagine, but dalals, chamchas and sycophants of the rulers. Maybe you don’t want to think about your ancestors as being lowly, groveling sycophants of the people in power and that’s why you want to re-imagine your ancestry thus. If that’s indeed the case, you have no right denigrating other people’s cultural past, especially with the sort of words you’ve chosen–which only show you to be ignorant of history, bigoted and in serious need of needing to accept that your ancestor were only ago-ma-ghyu-phalne manches (both literally and figuratively.)

  • 200. Raj Kumar Rai  |  July 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    Siwakoti Ji.

    Huna Ta Tapai Pragyig Byaktitwa Hunu Hunchha Hola. Tara Tapai ko “Comment 185″ Ma Prayog Garnu Bhaeko Sheili Ra Shabda Haru Herda- Padhda, Sayad Jo Kohi Lai Pani Tiktata Ko Anubhw Hunchha. Chahe Bastibikta Je Hos, Prastut garne sheili Ra Shabda haru Pachya kisim ko hunu parchha jasto malai lagchha.Ajha bhannu hunchha “gurkha” ko Bare ma research garne bhanera. Tara tapai ko tyas khal ko comment lai herda sampurna Gurkha haru le kasto kisim ko “Research” ko asha garla tapai bat? Tapai le sahrei halka rup ma lekhi dinu bhaeko chha ki Gurkhas tatha gurkha ko family haru le UK , HK ma Enjoy gari raheka chhan teipani Tapai ko Purkha haru le “Becheko Huna le”, Nabhae “Shikari wa Majhi” hune
    Thie. Yestei ho Dcotorate garne ko Lekhan sheili?Mitra Aru le lekhi dieko kitab ka 10/15 panna haru ghokera 3/4 ghanta ma lekhna sakeko khanda ma nei kohi pani “Bidwan” Hudeina.Ho Ramailo garne kura pani Jiwan ko lagi awashyak chha Ra kati pay haru Bikriti ko Shikar pani bhaeka chhan. Yo aphno thau ma chha. Tara khoi tapai le dekhnu bhaeko arka ko desh ma Gulami garda ko Pida, dukha? Atma Samman ma Chot parne tini haru ko “SHABDA”. Ho Arthik rup le kehi phaida bhaeko chha. Tara badala ma ke -ke gumaeka chhan? Khoi tapai ko bishleshanatmak abhibyakti? Aba rahyo, Andolan ko kura, Bastab ma yas lai yati kei ma stop garne wa nirantarta dine, gahan chhalphal ko bishay baneko chha. British ko Awashiya Visa ko kadam , bastab mei sochaniya chha.
    Hawas Siwakoti Ji
    Bye
    Bhul bhae Kshama.
    Raj (Morang)

  • 201. GANDHE KANCHHA  |  July 30th, 2007 at 11:29 am

    thanks to mr
    R B SIBAKOTI,
    he catched d good point. at d end of serial no…. 198
    please refer dat once again……………

    ( IT IS GOOD TO HAVE MORE ORG BT DEY R NO LONGER WORKING IN INTEREST OF GURKHAS, THEIR INTEREST R IN SOME OTHER AREAS, FIELDS )

    so close ur eyes n think 1 min.. all d gurkhas..

  • 202. GANDHE KANCHHA  |  July 30th, 2007 at 11:38 am

    bt mr R B SIBAKOTI ji..
    don write thesis anyhow… in any subject
    u have to study more about dat.
    otherwise u wil be in truble.
    actually u don know whats d fact … wats d real..
    about GURKHAS…
    b cos u r not phycially involved
    in d field of gurkhas.
    anyway,,,
    gd try..
    thanks

  • 203. RB Siwakoti  |  August 22nd, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    Look Gandhe Kanchha, you may be proud of being a Gurkha but there are so many things you need to look into and know inside your organisations.

    One example is, those Japanese Prisoner of War who received £10,000/- each have given back a Lakh each to GAESO, do you know that? there are more then 2000 veterans of that category.

    Wish you good luck.

    RB Siwakoti

  • 204. RB Siwakoti  |  August 29th, 2007 at 12:30 am

    My Gurkha friends,

    Following information is totally fabricated and it’s untrue. One of my close friend was there to watch whole thing. The answer is a Big “NO” by Immigration Tribunal in Cetral London on 1st Aug 2007.

    It has become UK national issue now so neither British Government nor the British Public not even young Gurkhas are going to support.

    Either find a fresh solution or shut your door off
    forever and keep quite with the money you have. It is fruitless to waist hard earned money by the Gurkhas, rather help Madesh or fund coming election in our soil.

    Gurkhas are everywhere now, don’t underestimate and try to
    get through the back door.

    Gurkha Legion

    __________________________________________________
    GAESO’s version of verdict on 1st aug 2007.

    GURKHAS IN LEGAL BID TO STAY IN UK
    Wednesday August 1,2007

    A Gurkha who is prepared to fight and die in battle for Britain should be allowed to stay here, an immigration tribunal has been told.

    About 20 Gurkhas, many wearing medals and clutching their berets, sat quietly listening to legal arguments in a test case which could help decide whether 2,000 Gurkhas could settle in Britain.

    David Enright, representing 44 veterans, told the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal in central London: “I think the Entry Clearance Officer (ECO) should have considered war wounds, decorations when in battle, swearing allegiance to the Crown, swearing allegiance for decades, fighting a battle, being injured, guarding the Queen the way your fathers and grandfathers served the Queen, paying income tax.

    “You cannot find a stronger way to link with the UK.

    “All these are strong ties with the UK and should be considered in the particular circumstances of the Gurkhas who have rendered such sterling service for over 200 years.”

    It is the first time the court will decide how far they can determine the issue of Gurkhas wanting indeterminately to enter the UK.

    One of the lead cases in the class action is being brought on behalf of injured Falklands veteran Lance Corporal Gyanendra Rai, who served for 13 years in the Army. He had half his back blown out by an Argentine artillery round. Another lead case is set to be that of Siba Kumari Pun, 30, the Hong Kong-born daughter of a Gurkha whose uncertain status could act as a test case for hundreds of relatives of Gurkhas.

    Mr Enright argued that the ECOs had made “cut and paste” decisions without proper consideration. The veterans have no credibility issues and satisfy policy guidance, he claimed.

    Current serving Gurkhas are almost automatically entitled to live in the UK after completing their Army service. Gurkhas who retired before 1997 have to rely on the discretion of a British ECO to determine whether they should be allowed to live in the UK.

    This means that more than 400 Gurkhas who have served in the British Army, including war zones, have been told they do not have “strong ties” to the UK, lawyers for the Gurkhas argue.

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  • 205. Sima  |  September 10th, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    To all Gurkhas,

    Why not a Gurkha political party instead of running here and there?

  • 206. JAHA JANCHHA DAWA, TEHA CHALNA CHODCHHA HAWA..  |  September 25th, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    ha ha…………
    comment huru ramailo chha

  • 207. Gupta Gurung  |  November 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    Rai ji kina hiro banna man lagyo ki ke ho?kam garne kalu makai
    khane bhalu bhane jhain,desh-bidesh ma andolan charkaeko
    chha eutale,news paper herera anounce garchhau,kina garnu
    paryo,baru chup lagera base pugihalchhani.

  • 208. Yadav Gurung  |  December 21st, 2007 at 2:35 pm

    Tei Ta Badho “Salman Khan” Jastei Hero Banna khojdo rahechha. Je dieko chha tyo Khan chhodera.

  • 209. Yadav Gurung  |  December 21st, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Gupat Ji lai chahi ke ko tauko dukhyou?

  • 210. malami  |  January 1st, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    mari mari garne hanuma jas paune deru vane jai hajur haruko comment marfat LOVE pareko dekhera malai ta haspo utcha he he he sadai vanda khusiko kuro ma padam gurung dhailai danne bad dinchu kinaki uha hunuhunteyo ra po hami pani chug tara arulai ma kehi pani…………………….

  • 211. kanchha  |  March 18th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Sabaiko comment herda sarai hans lagchha. maile bujhda k bhayeko chha bhane: kam garne badar, pagari guthne dhedu. bhane jhai bhai raheko chha. soraima kehi kamko contribution nadiyi malamal khojneko tanti haru. kam garne haru sabai swargabas bhai saken. babu bajeko nam bechdai jiwan palana garne chandal haru. jati pani uk ma jane haru 10% manchhe haru matra ramro chhan. 90% chai army ma pani testai nepalma pani jibika garnu hamme damme parne haru chhan.

  • 212. Bir khule  |  June 29th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    sarai khushi ko khaber sune ko khanda ma sampurna UK daju,bhai haru ma ajhai yestai..yestai samachar haru padhna pau ra samaye le saath diye ko khanda ma ma pani ek choti uk ko gurkha musiam ma ghumna aula…….ra s’pore ma pani 1949 ko rules lai hatai sampurna chamche haru ko daara bhachiye ko cha ra future ma ramrai huncha hola…..

  • 213. subash thapa magar  |  October 3rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    hi dear readers
    huna ta ma lahure hoina tara 1/2 barsha pachi bhidne bichar gardai thiye. tara ahile yoo khabar sunda ta malai man khinna lagyo , bhedbhav ko pani sima huncha ni lagbhag 2 satabdi gora ko seva gareko gurkha lai gora le yeti samma ta garnu hunna thiyo , pahile ta hamro bhuvag khosyo ra ahile adhikar hanan gardai cha. la ta sathi ho yedi ma lahure lage bhane yes pension , saman adhikar ra purano gurkha ko bishay lai liyera awaaz uthaune chhu.

  • 214. jaganatham hanumanthu  |  November 5th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    sir,
    I get pension on 30 oct 2008, Rs. 3342/-. now how much after 6cpc pension.

  • 215. bindu  |  November 17th, 2008 at 3:35 am

    hi im bindu,im so happy abt these thing. thats ll have get good future then hahhahha keep it up/

  • 216. ganga rai  |  February 21st, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    british armyma sabai gorkhaka matrai chhan ki ke ho.

  • 217. sul sule  |  April 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    sabailai namaskar chha hai yo sul suleko.

  • 218. til bahadur  |  June 7th, 2009 at 1:51 am

    hamro bajaye ko pention kati hunchha ta aba

  • 219. laamo puchar  |  January 8th, 2010 at 3:02 am

    I don’t thik british gorvernment will give equal pension for ex gurkhas because they are under the Gurkha pension scheme. Most of the ex gurkhas were retired 15 year service point and they have been paid immediate pension the day after they left service. Under the british pension scheme who have serve just 15 year, he has to wait until get 65 to get pension and its not full pension either. The gurkha pension scheme is better than british pension scheme because compairing with it for example X Gurkha soldier retired 15 year service point and he is 35 year old. He get immidate pension £140 pounds per months which accumulated up to 65 year of his age point 140 x 12 x 30 = £50,400 which is lots of amount. If the british gorvernment agree to pay equal pension then the ex Gurkhas might have to pay back some amount because as british soldier pension scheme £0.00 get until they get 65 year.

  • 220. dhan bahadur gurung  |  February 8th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    All tha baste

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